Hi planning on rebuilding a 283 in future, any suggestions on places to shop at either on the net or local? Thanks
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Hi planning on rebuilding a 283 in future, any suggestions on places to shop at either on the net or local? Thanks
Summit racing. call and get a catalog 1-800-230-3030
Local NAPA, Jegs, Speedway
Check out my website, I can usually beat Summit/Jegs and sell top-line stuff. Specialty is SBC
Chris Laarman
www.ottawaengine.com
i got my rebuild kit from northern autoparts. havn't fire it up yet tho.
thanks for the reply. I have heard of northern myself was refered to them a long time ago by somebody. I have actually looked at the prices from them. Let me ask you did you by a master kit or just a rering kit or? Seemed to be quailty stuff? Your 283 does it have the oil cannister ? one i am getting does wonder haow good they work? Motor you built is a stock or ?. Thanks for the help BrianQuote:
Originally posted by chevys283
i got my rebuild kit from northern autoparts. havn't fire it up yet tho.
Get a spin-on filter adapter. Much less mess, and easier to find filters.
if you need any help email me im the self procalimed <well one of them> 283 guys on this site. jegs hey ebay works to speedway scoggin dickey and local shops are good sometimes to. what do youw ant to dow ith the 283? drag street both? cruizer? inform me:3dSMILE: ,......scooter
Going in a chevy truck, wanting mild street truck, thinking on a small say rv type cam , edlebrock intake and carb, exhuast, depending on if the motor needs bored? or stay stock. Not wanting anything fancy but just a nice run around daily driver for me and family to crusie around end. Does that help you?Quote:
Originally posted by gassersrule_196
if you need any help email me im the self procalimed <well one of them> 283 guys on this site. jegs hey ebay works to speedway scoggin dickey and local shops are good sometimes to. what do youw ant to dow ith the 283? drag street both? cruizer? inform me:3dSMILE: ,......scooter
Use a short cam, something like this...
http://www.cranecams.com/?show=brows...tType=camshaft
Or a Comp XE250H...
http://www.compcams.com/Technical/Cu...ML/128-169.asp
Or a 201256 Isky...
http://www.iskycams.com/onlinecatalog.html
Or an Elgin 262/268...
http://www.elgincams.com/
Or a Schneider 21000...
http://www.schneidercams.com/cams/21.htm
You get the general idea....don't let anyone talk you into more cam than I've suggested here, you won't like it based on what you said you wanted to do with the motor.
I've gotten 2 master kits (350 early) and 2 rering kits (350 post 87, and 400) from Northern. Very happy with the prices, delivery, and quality. Always been name brand stuff. I like that they don't charge shipping, just $9 handling charge per order. I miss ordered 30 over pistons when I should have ordered std, and they quickly exchanged for me without a problem. They offer lots of options with the early 350 master kits.Quote:
Originally posted by bassfisher
thanks for the reply. I have heard of northern myself was refered to them a long time ago by somebody. I have actually looked at the prices from them. Let me ask you did you by a master kit or just a rering kit or? Seemed to be quailty stuff?
Why are you rebuilding a 283?Is this a numbers matching car?
Thanks, the cam I am refering too is a edlebrock 2102 believe thats right# . Was told it would work okay given the ratings on it. what do you think?Quote:
Originally posted by techinspector1
Use a short cam, something like this...
http://www.cranecams.com/?show=brows...tType=camshaft
Or a Comp XE250H...
http://www.compcams.com/Technical/Cu...ML/128-169.asp
Or a 201256 Isky...
http://www.iskycams.com/onlinecatalog.html
Or an Elgin 262/268...
http://www.elgincams.com/
Or a Schneider 21000...
http://www.schneidercams.com/cams/21.htm
You get the general idea....don't let anyone talk you into more cam than I've suggested here, you won't like it based on what you said you wanted to do with the motor.
When is the last time you ordered from them? As I look at the shipping rates it looks as if they charge a handling fee per box and set shipping charge. Handling fee is flat fee if takes 3 boxes to ship there will 3 handling fees plus shipping, maybe i am wrong. I contacted them they the master kit I am talking about comes in 1 though. Did they get the parts to you quick?Quote:
Originally posted by dcoffield
I've gotten 2 master kits (350 early) and 2 rering kits (350 post 87, and 400) from Northern. Very happy with the prices, delivery, and quality. Always been name brand stuff. I like that they don't charge shipping, just $9 handling charge per order. I miss ordered 30 over pistons when I should have ordered std, and they quickly exchanged for me without a problem. They offer lots of options with the early 350 master kits.
Hey erick, the reason on the 283 so far is needed a motor, this came along VERY CHEAP . So at this point cost had a major factor. Been looking for a donor car so far have not found one. Besides I can always use it for something else if I find another 1 say a 350?Trying to build the truck, have a family, 1 person works you know BLAH, BLAH, Blah, that only reason so far.Quote:
Originally posted by erik erikson
Why are you rebuilding a 283?Is this a numbers matching car?
Yep, that'll work fine. Nice long ramps so it will be easy on the valvetrain and ground on 112 degree LDA for a good idle and good vacuum.Quote:
Originally posted by bassfisher
Thanks, the cam I am refering too is a edlebrock 2102 believe thats right# . Was told it would work okay given the ratings on it. what do you think?
Been there done that.My wife says if I keep it up we will be living down by a river in a van.But with a very nice Pro Street car.Quote:
Originally posted by bassfisher
Hey erick, the reason on the 283 so far is needed a motor, this came along VERY CHEAP . So at this point cost had a major factor. Been looking for a donor car so far have not found one. Besides I can always use it for something else if I find another 1 say a 350?Trying to build the truck, have a family, 1 person works you know BLAH, BLAH, Blah, that only reason so far.
You got me wondering, so I looked up my past orders on their web site. I've only been charged $8.99 per order handling and no shipping. The most I've ordered at once was a master kit and a rering kit. I don't remember if they came in the same shipping box. This was in August, and I just ordered a Proform distributor and some roller rockers. They are having some good deals on HEI distributors for the next couple of days, $116 for sbc racing HEI without vacuum adv, $90 for oem replacement. Anyway, they've always gotten my order within 3-4 days.Quote:
Originally posted by bassfisher
When is the last time you ordered from them? As I look at the shipping rates it looks as if they charge a handling fee per box and set shipping charge. Handling fee is flat fee if takes 3 boxes to ship there will 3 handling fees plus shipping, maybe i am wrong. I contacted them they the master kit I am talking about comes in 1 though. Did they get the parts to you quick?
Back in the 60's and 70's the 283 built to a 301 was fad that ran real well, those engines had 327 cranks and some used high hp pistons and heads with mild cams. FYI :eek:
i bought the master kit mine is stock. bored 0.60. and im building the 283 because it's a lot cooler sounding the 350 lol
There you go then, 1 out of 2, least you have your ride.Quote:
Originally posted by erik erikson
Been there done that.My wife says if I keep it up we will be living down by a river in a van.But with a very nice Pro Street car.
Thanks for the info, 1 more thing, given what i have told you the intake would be a preformer or a eps and a 500cfm carb and a cam thats got those specs, what would think the motor would increase by, and would be a nice driver? ThanksQuote:
Originally posted by techinspector1
Yep, that'll work fine. Nice long ramps so it will be easy on the valvetrain and ground on 112 degree LDA for a good idle and good vacuum.
Sorry did not want to confuse you, I just checked it said a $8.99 for handling per box, might got confused on the 2 day rates it is a little confusing using there table. Give a $ amount plus shipping, plus 2 day rate. thanks for your help, probably going to get 1 from them. Need to see what the motor needs before, planning on upgrading the cam, figure the price basic kit and all the other stuff be cheaper to order master kit. Thanks for your help. BrianQuote:
Originally posted by dcoffield
You got me wondering, so I looked up my past orders on their web site. I've only been charged $8.99 per order handling and no shipping. The most I've ordered at once was a master kit and a rering kit. I don't remember if they came in the same shipping box. This was in August, and I just ordered a Proform distributor and some roller rockers. They are having some good deals on HEI distributors for the next couple of days, $116 for sbc racing HEI without vacuum adv, $90 for oem replacement. Anyway, they've always gotten my order within 3-4 days.
Good to hear another peanut motor user....you are right these are a dime a dozen....In fact I think I have a dozen or so lying around....Most people pass by them on the way to a bigger motor....But in a lighter car these will go good and get very respectible gas mileage.....I'd love to see what one of these would be capable of with a set of Vortec heads...
Like Tech said stay with the cam suggested....a 265cam is borderline for these with streetability...well depends how you difine streeable.....
Actualy a 283 with a 327 crank (3.25" stroke) is a 307. Nobody wants one of those. The 301 was a 283 bored .120 over to 3.995 with the stock 3" crank . Or you could use a 327 block which is 4' bore and a 283 crank but few people that had a 327 wanted a smaller engine. When Chevy started making their own version for the 1967 Z28 they used a 4" bore block and a large journal 3" crank. This gave just a hair more bore so they called it a 302 when in fact it was a fraction of a cubic inch less and still a 301.something.Quote:
Originally posted by carzrus
Back in the 60's and 70's the 283 built to a 301 was fad that ran real well, those engines had 327 cranks and some used high hp pistons and heads with mild cams. FYI :eek:
We mostly used the Duntov cam and Corvette dual quads with ported Power Pak heads. The bucks up guys would use Offy or Edelbrock dual quad intakes with a pair of 409 AFBs. I had a friend that had Crane heads, the AFBs, an Engle solid roller cam and Headman headers with a 4 speed in his '57. That was a high zoot car for the time. Fast too.
A 283 is a good engine. I have had one in my '59 Corvette for 35 years. It has the Vette dual quads and an old Wolverine solid cam. I have been thinking of building a 301 for it though. The easy way to do that now is to use 350 pistons for 6.0 inch rods on 5.7 " rods. If I remember right you deck to .020 in the hole and you are good to go. There is a vast selection of 350 pistons but 302s have very few offerings and they are $$
Tom
Good luck building the 283. I think you will like it. It will perform very well.
I thought the problem with the 307 was the low compression heads of the EPA era, not the displacement.Quote:
Originally posted by 39Deluxe
Actualy a 283 with a 327 crank (3.25" stroke) is a 307. Nobody wants one of those.
The last recipe I got was 283, .030 over, 327 crank with 2.02 intake heads.
But I don't think .030 over will clear 2.02 intake valves.
Bert
dr bowtie.. i have a q for u... i seen that you have a 283 bored 60 over... whats it run like ... what ya got it in... i have the same thing .. its all stock ... 60 over, holley intake and 600 cfm carb... summit headers in a 1950 chevy... u had said sumthin about the vortech heads???.. . what would those run like on a 283?? or would they even work... cuz i might look in to that .. i can get a top end very cheap.... thanx
don't know about the Vortech heads but even with power pack heads you can get over 300 h.p. out of a 283. I also have one in my 55, bored .060, 10-1 pistons, cam, Edelbrock etc. runs great and really surprises a lot of people.
Thank you for your responce, This is my first build so taking in all the info I can, like i said earlier reason so far for the motor is $. Basically got some extra parts thrown in with my truck, carbs that would not work for me . I took and sold one of them which will cover the cost of the motor so geeting it for free. Thats OKAY WITH ME. There will $ spent in a lot of other places in this build. Think I like it best when my son who is 4 was inside on floorboard helping to scrape off insulation and having fun with me. Went to Good GUYS recently had a blast with him and the wife. Now she wants a muscle car, guess started something, but least we are doing it together. Know you did not ask for all this , maybe it can help some else doing same. Thanks a bunch BrianQuote:
Originally posted by reborn55
Good luck building the 283. I think you will like it. It will perform very well.
Quote:
Originally posted by carzrus
Back in the 60's and 70's the 283 built to a 301 was fad that ran real well, those engines had 327 cranks and some used high hp pistons and heads with mild cams. FYI :eek:
actually its 327 with a 283 crank makes 302, 283 with 327 crank= 307 and 283 bored .125=301.6
id like tot ry some of the new EQ cylinder heads they are said t outflow the vortechs and are about 395 a piece..unless you want to try the new bowtie-vortechs.
Hey there, can you tell me a little about the oil cannisters that some of the 283 had? Do they work okay, messy changing oil? And what do you think about the adaptors to use a spin on filters? Any ideal on the cost for one? Thanks brianQuote:
Originally posted by reborn55
Good luck building the 283. I think you will like it. It will perform very well.
they are not that much and yeah get a spin on adapter its easier to fine filters and they are better filters anyways. cheap to do under 75 bucks last time i checked..........scooter
I ran the cannister type on mine till about 3 years ago and then switched to the adaptor to use the spin on type. Just easier to change the filter. NAPA sells the adaptor kit for less than 15.00 last I looked. easy switch. Either system is good though.
Thanks for the info Ken, what needed to know. BrianQuote:
Originally posted by reborn55
I ran the cannister type on mine till about 3 years ago and then switched to the adaptor to use the spin on type. Just easier to change the filter. NAPA sells the adaptor kit for less than 15.00 last I looked. easy switch. Either system is good though.
Appericate the help. BrianQuote:
Originally posted by gassersrule_196
they are not that much and yeah get a spin on adapter its easier to fine filters and they are better filters anyways. cheap to do under 75 bucks last time i checked..........scooter
I put the spin on adaptor on today...from NAPA. What a difference! $21.00Quote:
Originally posted by R Pope
Get a spin-on filter adapter. Much less mess, and easier to find filters.
:3dSMILE:
The low compression is part of the problem. Intake valve clearance to the top of the cylinder wall with big valves is another. That limits your choice of heads although a good set of ported 1.94s would work well on the street. If you put 2.02s on a 283 bore check your valve clearance very carefully. Performance pistons for the 307 to bring that low comp up a little are almost non-existant too. A combination of decking, milling and thin head gaskets working towards a 9.3 range CR would probably make a pretty torquey 307. Match the cam and induction well and it could be an interesting combo. It's just always been thought of as a lot of work and expense to get less results than a standard 350.Quote:
Originally posted by SBC
I thought the problem with the 307 was the low compression heads of the EPA era, not the displacement.
The last recipe I got was 283, .030 over, 327 crank with 2.02 intake heads.
But I don't think .030 over will clear 2.02 intake valves.
Bert
Tom