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    hey all, im a car enthusiast but mostly I love engines. Im only 18 and although ive had experience with turbocharged 4-cylinders I have never been able to mess with V8s or any pushrod engines really.

    currently I have a fiero that I swapped in a 3.4DOHC from a lumina, I love the high revs but I want more power. I was going to just turbocharge it but now I think I would like to stuff a SBC into it. So I need to learn all I can about SBCs and figure out the best setup for my use. Are there any really good books that focus on SBCs and are for people with moderate to advanced engine knowledge.

    What would be a good base setup? Im not too worried about down low torque since its a light car and im going to have a lot with a V8 no matter what, id like to reliably rev to 6,500-7,000(dont know how reasonable this is) and make around 450-500hp, no N2O, no forced induction. Something low budget. A high end screamer

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    You can find 4-bolt mains 350 blocks around everywhere. They are falling out of trees. If you were to get something like that, I doubt that you would have to do much extensive work to it past bolt-ons to get the type of performance you're probably looking for in a car of that weight. I am not the most experienced person here by one heck of a long shot, but I'd say the right head, cam, and intake/carburetor package would give you plenty of wallop to propel a car of those dimensions.

    A popular choice seems to be the Edelbrock Performer RPM Aluminum cylinder head. I've heard great things about them, and was going for a pair myself when I found myself a pair of brandy-new Dart Iron Eagles for the right price.

    I know that a few people did LS1 swaps into those cars with insane results.

    It's cool that you're getting into V8s. I'm only 20, been into them for a few years now, and I love my old-ass technology to death
    As far as the engine tech aspect of this project, you've come to the right place. I've yet to have a question left unanswered. Half these people have built more engines than I've had hot meals.

    Good luck to you.
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    .......Woooo, 'low budget' & 'high end screamer' is a tough one. They don't usually go in the same sentence... High RPM's = Forged, Expensive parts.... Although I'm by no means the most qualified person here to give you a combo, that I do know.... By the way, what is your budget??? Bill

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    I was thinking of going fuel injection cause I have no experience with carbs. My budget is probably $3000 max. I just want to be able to rev to 7grand and set the engine up for midrange and top-end power. I didnt think it would be hard to get 450-500hp so I figured I could do it in that price range

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyTwo
    I was thinking of going fuel injection cause I have no experience with carbs. My budget is probably $3000 max. I just want to be able to rev to 7grand and set the engine up for midrange and top-end power. I didnt think it would be hard to get 450-500hp so I figured I could do it in that price range


    Why do you want to rev the engine so high ?

    The best part of any V8 is that they produce plenty of torque, especially in the mid range, where a lot of experienced street V8 people set them up. Generally speaking the longer the stroke on a V8 the higher the torque and the lower the revs, like say a 383 = 4.00 bore x 3.75 stroke. Now we go to the other end of the line a 302 = 4.00 bore x 3.00 stroke. The 302 liked to rev 7500 rpm for a factory engine. 3rd engine a 350 = 4.00 bore x 3.48 stroke. The 350 generally reved out to just on 6000 rpm factory.

    Notice that all these displacement engines shared a common bore 4.00 inches only the stroke changed. This information goes to 1st generation SBC engines from 1962 327 4 inch bore to 1986 350 4 inch bore with the 2 peice rear main oil seal blocks.

    Next most important thing in your motor is the camshaft, this one thing will dictate which cylinder heads and pistons you use.

    I would suggest that this being your 1st V8 engine that you go with a 350 as mentioned they are plentifull, also they are easy to build. and they produce power. I also strongly suggest because of your budget that that you stick to around 350 HP which is an easy target to shoot for if done right. And aim for midrange torque. Say a rev range of 2000 to 4800 Rpm. By revs, what I think you mean is that you want a fast respondsive engine with plenty of "snap" So a mechanical solid lifter camshaft will achieve this.

    There are plenty of people on here that run and build V8' and the ways and sizes are as varied and different as guys spinning wrenches.

    Oh and welcome aboard.
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    a good motor that a lot of people forget about is the old 283 corvette motors... they're a very good high RPM motor with a short stroke.... it'll kind of remind you of the 4cyls you're used to but instead be a v8.... they're a good quick motor and lighter weight than a 350..... the availability on them is a little less though so it would be something you'll have to do some looking for..... i've had a coupla 283s and i loved them.... they're great for road racing and the such.... i used to dump mine at 6000rpms and just launch in my little nova....
    just because your car is faster, doesn't mean i cant outdrive you... give me a curvy mountain road and i'll beat you any day

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    Well, my idea was the 302, but that's a really effing complicated mess.

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