Thread: Roadster vs 4x4 on fwy
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03-16-2008 10:29 PM #1
Roadster vs 4x4 on fwy
The 4x4 won.
Idiot lost part of his scrap/trash load about 2-3 cars ahead. Crap flying everywhere & no- he didn't even slow down. Then this 4x4 came out of nowhere & I hit it w/my front driver tire.
Bottom of frame is bent upwards where leaf bottomed out & smacked it, tore the upper shock mount right out of the frame. Time to call Grundy, the frame is powdercoated!
Hot rods are mean't to be driven? I'm ready to buy an enclosed trailer!
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03-16-2008 10:33 PM #2
Man that sucks, sorry to here about your car...
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03-16-2008 11:00 PM #3
dude that sucks big time
but im glad to hear your alright!Never Criticise A Man Until You've Walked A Mile In His Shoes. That Way When You Criticise Him You'll Be A Mile Away And You'll Have His Shoes
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03-17-2008 04:16 AM #4
Originally Posted by Steves32
Since when?What are they for then?
You mean I've been doiing it wrong all this time, and driving my cars........ I mean Hot Rods? Damn, was I suppose to put it on a shelf next to my model cars?
"Then this 4x4 came out of nowhere & I hit it w/my front driver tire."
Sounds like you hit it, it didn't hit you..... Doesn't sound like the Hot Rod should be the one to be parked!
Pat
It'll be a cold day before I don't drive any of mine, that's why I build them.HemiTCoupe
Anyone can cut one up, but! only some can put it back together looking cool!
Steel is real, anyone can get a glass one.
Pro Street Full Fendered '27 Ford T Coupe -392 Hemi with Electornic Hilborn injection
1927 Ford T Tudor Sedan -CPI Vortec 4.3
'90 S-15 GMC pick up
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03-17-2008 07:32 AM #5
Originally Posted by HemiTCoupe
Guess I should have not bothered posting but I thought others might be interested in how & if Grundy handles a claim.
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03-17-2008 07:42 AM #6
Misunderstanding probably. I am interested in how Grundy reacts, post updates.
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03-17-2008 07:45 AM #7
Originally Posted by Steves32
It could have been worse - the 4X4 could have had 4 wheels and said F350 or C3500 on it.
I'm really sorry to see the damage to your car - that wont be an easy fix. Keep us posted on how you make out with Grundy - I'm considering them for insurance for my project after years with Sneed and their ho hum attitudeDave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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03-17-2008 06:02 PM #8
Originally Posted by Steves32
PatHemiTCoupe
Anyone can cut one up, but! only some can put it back together looking cool!
Steel is real, anyone can get a glass one.
Pro Street Full Fendered '27 Ford T Coupe -392 Hemi with Electornic Hilborn injection
1927 Ford T Tudor Sedan -CPI Vortec 4.3
'90 S-15 GMC pick up
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03-17-2008 09:01 PM #9
No sweat Pat
I appreciate everyone's input on this disaster of mine. I think it makes it a little easier when you have some car buddies to share with. Several of you have had accidents in your cars as well.
For me- shit happens & you move forward. I try & think about how lucky I was to not be hurt! That 1st board could have hit the windshield & then me!
I'm about 99% positive I'm going to send the car over to Pete at So Cal Speed.
One stop shopping, they can handle the whole package from repairs to paint.
At 1st, I thought of sending it over to my friend Earle Williams (Williams Classic Chassis Works) to have him do his Tig magic & plating on it but then I'd be shipping the car all over town to complete the car. Not in the mood to do all the leg work.
So- I spent some time on the phone w/ Ryan at So Cal Speed (shop manager) & he says he's seen this failure several times. According to him- these mounts are welded to side of frame right where crossmember is notched into frame. If you look down a TCI frame- you can see the buldge from welding it in (probably from the heat as mentioned above). So- what happens is the guy goes after it w/ a grinder to clean it up for powdercoat & gets that edge very thin. Also- that threaded insert is only 3/4" deep! It's not attached to opposite side of frame. He says what they do is cut the side of frame open outside the X member & weld in a thick plate inside the X member. Then they use a long threaded coupler welded to the plate & then to the new piece on the outside of frame. He says they have done several of these like this & they turned out nice & are much stronger.
He says I'd probably like this approach better than a shock tower welded to the frame which may detract from the period look of the car. But he says he'll leave that call up to me.
Now if I was building this car from the ground up- I would have used another frame. Read too many negatives on TCI's frames. But that's what I have under the car & I'll have to work with it. I doub't Grundy would spring for another brand frame just because I'm not happy with this one. If it can be made stronger than it was- and safe- I'll be happy.
I'd think the perfect rail would be 1 piece mandrel bent w/ the correct reveal on side of the frame but I don't think anyone offers that.Last edited by Steves32; 03-17-2008 at 09:13 PM.
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03-17-2008 09:20 PM #10
i would have them weld the drilled and tap some solid round stock to the inside of the rail and bolt the shock towers back in .i think they looks good that way . sounds like they have been there done it that is good they know how to make it betterLast edited by pat mccarthy; 03-17-2008 at 09:23 PM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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03-18-2008 05:00 AM #11
Originally Posted by Steves32
Dave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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03-17-2008 07:45 AM #12
that a bad deal.i have had it happen to me it sucks .but your frame looks very thin looks like it was cracking there? that rail steel looks thinner then1/8 ?if so you can not just pull and push on the one surface 1/8 with the shock mountLast edited by pat mccarthy; 03-17-2008 at 07:49 AM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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03-17-2008 07:48 AM #13
Nobody wants to see a car accident but when it's a street rod/hot rod it really hurts. I hope you get it back together with out too much trouble.
Richard
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03-17-2008 07:56 AM #14
We have scrapers here all over . Some of the trucks look like the bed wall is coming off and held with a bunge cord. In my driver i do what i can to stay in front off them.
Important thing you ok . Like others say keep a post on the insurance and there processing of the claim . As we all know insurance company's are in it for profit and hate giving out money .
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03-17-2008 08:09 AM #15
look at the photos ? frame is to god #$4amn thin them cracks did not happen from the mishap??? is needs to be fix right or it is going to happen again .sorry but you need to look at the other side to.Last edited by pat mccarthy; 03-17-2008 at 08:13 AM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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