You didn't like my flamed grille insert, what about this one?

I think you might like it. Plus- it was a deal that was too good to pass up.

Brand spankin' new Dan Fink straight bar polished stainless grille.
Retails for upwards of $800.00, I scored it for 600 bucks.
The insurance on my freeway incident is covering a $360.00 Dales or Vintique replacement. Bottom line is... it's only costing me the difference!
I'll take it to SoCal Friday so Ryan can fit it to the new Brookville shell.

I was surprised at how heavy it is! Really well made.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL22/.../313571647.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL22/.../313571646.jpg

Much better. I have a Dan Fink grille on my '27, had it done many years back. His workmanship is top notch, you'll love yours. He builds them out of very strong rectangular bar stock so they don't bend up easily.

Don

Now thats a nice grille, good choice

Man, if I didn't have bad luck...................I'd have no luck at all.:CRY:

Took it to SoCal. WTF? Not even close to a fit! We tried it in a Brookville shell & a Vintique. No luck. There's a 3/4" gap towards bottom on each side.
Hard to explain but it looks like the contour for the top of grille is on bottom & bottom contour is on top! Lay it in one way & top & bottoms fit fine but gaps on sides at bottom. Flip it over & sides are very close to correct but top & bottom are waaaay off.
Again, WTF???????

Maybe it was custom made to fit a shell that was narrowed at the the base by like 1 1/2"?

Looks like I'm going w/ a Dales grille afterall. No way can I get a DF for my car in time for paint.

Plus- unless the seller refunds me- I'm out 600 bucks!!!!
Anyone wanna buy a grille? All you have to do is narrow the bottom of your shell so it will fit!

Dan Fink grilles are custom made to each shell, I forgot to mention that. I had to send my shell to them and they made the insert just for it.

Maybe your seller has the shell it was made for.

Don

Looks good 2 me

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Looks like I'm going w/ a Dales grille afterall. No way can I get a DF for my car in time for paint.

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CONGRATULATIONS
I prefer the original look anyways ... :D

Very nice - sorry to hear that it doesn't fit well. You still, as long as you are honest about the fit problems, should have no problem recouping your money on EBay

Every so often I scroll up the Dan Fink website, drool on my keyboard until sanity returns. With the problems that I had fitting my Dale's to my POS lop sided Brookville shell, I might reconsider in a few years - but I doubt it!!

(...and, as always, I'm waiting for your comment, Deuce :rolleyes: :LOL: :LOL: )

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(...and, as always, I'm waiting for your comment, Deuce :rolleyes: :LOL: :LOL: )

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I have NEVER put you down, nor your projects.
As a fellow who has spent the better part of the last 2 months trying to get my 32 Ford 3W to fit ... like I want it to ... I am the LAST guy to be critical of other folks projects and the fit they work towards ... :)

I believe this d@^* coupe is possessed.
Original car on it's original frame with all the original sheet metal ( except the hood ) and it all fits like poo.
The BEST fitting thing on it is the HOOD.

:o

I have that very same grill insert in my '32. Dan Fink's grill inserts are works of art. And they will withstand a little more of a hit than an original repro grill. You lucky dog--I had to pay $800.00 for mine!

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:confused: :confused:

I have NEVER put you down, nor your projects.
As a fellow who has spent the better part of the last 2 months trying to get my 32 Ford 3W to fit ... like I want it to ... I am the LAST guy to be critical of other folks projects and the fit they work towards ... :)



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C'mon Deuce - it's a joke. Didn't you see the smilies??? Have a cup of coffee!!

And yes, you have ragged on me about my Brookville complaints both here and Hotrodders.com

Ebay is a very good place to buy parts at a price that is just too good to be true. I've been ripped a few times where the item was priced in the hundreds! Man, that still hurts! I hope the seller will work with you on it. My Dale's insert was a very tight fit in the Brookville shell before I started working the shell opening and I am still concerned that the fit will still be too tight after painting. I am pleased with the Dale's, but the Dan Fink insert is in a class by itself. Making repro parts fit seems to be a part of building a street rod. Your problem seems to be a new twist on the shell/insert fit problem. Dang!

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it. My Dale's insert was a very tight fit in the Brookville shell before I started working the shell opening and I am still concerned that the fit will still be too tight after painting. I am pleased with the Dale's, but the Dan Fink insert is in a class by itself. Making repro parts fit seems to be a part of building a street rod. Your problem seems to be a new twist on the shell/insert fit problem. Dang!

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I, too was concerned but was pleasantly surprised when after paint my Dale's went into the poorly crafted Brookville shell. It slipped into place. Dress any sharp edges on the insert surround.

There are several more areas on the shell that need help. The upper right at the bead - it's distorted where the hood fits. Both sides of the top peak are low. Looking down the sides - there is a depressed tooling mark that needs work. This, after Brookville assured me that they had corrected those manufacturing screw ups, still existed with the 2-3 shells that I saw at my dealer and at their display at NSRA York last year. These 'defects' cost me significant hours of repairs.

My Son Don is using a Dales insert in his T. The workmanship is actually quite good and they seem like nice people to deal with. His is in a Total Performance glass shell and it fit perfectly (the second time.........the first one was mismarked as being for a 6 1/2 inch chopped shell, but it was actually for a 4 & 1/2 inch chopped shell, but they took care of that with no hassles.)

Don

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My Son Don is using a Dales insert in his T. The workmanship is actually quite good and they seem like nice people to deal with. His is in a Total Performance glass shell and it fit perfectly (the second time.........the first one was mismarked as being for a 6 1/2 inch chopped shell, but it was actually for a 4 & 1/2 inch chopped shell, but they took care of that with no hassles.)

Don

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The Dale's inserts are, IMHO, absolutely perfect. Its just the shell that.... oh crap, you already have heard my rant about it:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

I do like his 'bucket and at this time of year miss mine

The guy who sold it to me is being a jerk. Says it fits a stock 32 grille perfectly, has no idea why it won't fit a Vintique or Brookville shell. We also tried it in a rusty stocker & same deal. His response is to ship it back on my dime & he will test fit it in his shell. If it fits, he's shipping it back to me on my dime again.
I know how that will play out. Shipping on this thing is near 40 bucks each way!

Here's a pic. He said I must have dropped it to make the fit so off.
I wasn't aware that dropping it would shrink the metal!:eek:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL22/.../314100015.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL22/.../314100019.jpg

That's sad - if you look at mine a couple of responses back, the configuration is NOT the same - and even with my angled shot. Methinks you was had:CRY: !! If you want to measure in a few places, and tell me exactly where you took 'em and send the numbers to me, I'll check against my Dale's. Or send to Deuce and ask him to check against an OEM. Measure the exact lengths of the bars should tell the tale.

I e-mailed the guy back just now. Said I'll ship it back on my dime, he can deduct 100 bucks for his trouble & listing fees & relist the insert. I think that's very fair. We'll see what his response is.
If it's truly as good as he thinks it is- should be no problem. If it's a POS & he knows it- this will prove it!


Dave- we laid the Dales right over the top of the Fink insert- not even close.

Edited to say I'd pay for shipping back.

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I e-mailed the guy back just now. Said I'll ship it back on his dime, he can deduct 100 bucks for his trouble & listing fees & relist the insert. I think that's very fair. We'll see what his response is.
If it's truly as good as he thinks it is- should be no problem. If it's a POS & he knows it- this will prove it!


Dave- we laid the Dales right over the top of the Fink insert- not even close.

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My guess is that he bought it cheap to resell or use himself - then found out he had a "special" for a unique 'one of' shell. Keep us up to date on what happens

(when do you get your repaired car back??)

Those e-bay experiences can be very painful! The crooks know they have the upper hand when they throw the "ship at your expense" line at you. I'm getting mad all over again! Man, I hate that this happened to you. Finding the money out of a family's income to buy street rod parts can be difficult for many of us. I have an original shell and a Brookville if you need any measure-ments. Just let me know.

Mine was a perfect fit to the Outlaw glass shell but I never sent the shell to them. I did tell them what kind of shell it was. They one you have must be a special order of some kind. If the problem is the grill and not your shell, then you should contact Ebay and PayPal or your credit card company. You should not have to accept misrepresented merchandise or pay for its return.

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(when do you get your repaired car back??)

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Pretty soon!
Frame is done- they are test fitting front suspension today after all the Tig welding before they shoot it. Then they will be fitting up everything w/ shell & realigning the 4 piece hood. Then they remove the windshield & prep for paint.
Hopefully, 2-3 weeks.

Slap me- but I'm thinking some traditional flames since it's going to paint anyway. They are painting everything from cowl forward but not the doors.
It's at the thinkin' phase only. Ryan at SoCal will probably hit me when I bring up the flame subject.:p
I'll probably have a coronary when I get the price for adding flames.

Maybe SoCal can get some "Apprentices" to work on it for you. :D It's about time for another show out of there, isn't it?

Don

I'm shooting for the LA Roadster Show on Father's Day & they know it.

I spent some time on Dan Fink's web site & I see something different. On all the DF grilles, the 2 horizontal bars that space all the vertical bars are all straight across. Take a look at the 1st pic in the thread- especially the 2nd one I posted. Both bars are curved & peak in the middle. They are NOT straight across!
I'm wondering if this is someone elses grille & not a DF grille.:mad:

I'll be at the shop tomorrow and will take a picture of mine for you. I looked at some pictures I have but they don't really show the crossbars well.

If this guy has a good rating on Ebay you may have some leverage because he won't want any problems there.

Don

You do seem to want those flames!!! Somewhere!!

Not my thing, but done tastefully can really set a car off very nicely. Maybe a subtle ghost flame job?? But I understand that they are much more expensive, too.:eek:

If you paid it with Paypal, they will lock his checking or credit card till you get it resolved. been there done that.
Go through Ebay "Fair Trade", they'll contact them on it aslo.

Pat

The plot thickens.
I looked at the grilles on the DF website & the one I got. The real DF grille has a straight across spacer bar (2) & this one has 2 curved bars & peaked at the top.
Sooooo I called Dan Fink. They confirmed their spacer bars are straight when viewed from the front & every grille they make is engraved with DF Metalworks on the top trim.

FRAUD!!!!!!!