Roger - I looked at the link you sent for the HAMB. The newest post was in 2010. I wonder how their stuff is doing now (quality wise)? Anyway, I have looked online at bodies from TRC in Lula, Georgia. The website says they are using the original refurbished molds from Downs. I don't know if that's good or bad. I haven't put any money down anywhere yet, so I'm still researching. Whatever I learn I'll post it here...