I have a 9" ford rear in my 57 chev. I was told this was a tough rear end.
Can some one tell me what makes this ford rear so tough. I know its tough
because it handles 800 hp pretty good. rd
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I have a 9" ford rear in my 57 chev. I was told this was a tough rear end.
Can some one tell me what makes this ford rear so tough. I know its tough
because it handles 800 hp pretty good. rd
Because ford built it tough, it has a pinion bearing set on the nose of the pinion gear. Also you get nodular cases for them as well, nodular pinion support, and posi and locker diffs, then there is all the aftermarket stuff as well.
As Southerner said the location of the pinion brgs makes the differance. Ford the pinion gear has the brgs on either side of the gear. GM has both brgs ahead of the gear.
Also, not all 9 inch Ford rears are created equal. Some are tougher than others, and the case design will tell you which model you have. Used to be that an N cast into the case was the good one (nodular) but I haven't kept up with recent developments, so there are probably better units now.
Don
LQQKs somethin' like this. There's NO ford parts in this picture, but you get the picture. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
i have put some good power thru the stock stuff first thing i do is loose the crush sleeve and set it up with a shim pack . the war case look like ford N case with out the N on them they are not hot for any power .i like the HRW case iron and use the daytona pinion support alum or iron set many of them up they are tough but take a bit more power to run than a 12 bolt
I agree they take a little more power through friction loss, but that s better than having the gears fall out :eek:
that is a bad thing when your rear end go,s to hell
:eek: very, you go to Nowheresville in a hurry :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
And just in case you want some really in depth info on this fine rear end, you can go to www.kevinstang.com/Ninecase.htm
Don
10 Bolt Pinion Support w/ARP Stud Kit
1350 Yoke
40 Spline spool
Aluminum Case
Giant Timkin Pinion Bearings
Extra wide Caps
4:11 Pro Gear
Bullitproof
I'm hopin' so.
them war cases have fooled more then one guy.
i ilke to show off my rear ends but there are in the cars .them alum are nice to lift .i have set up one and have set up the MW big roller ball bearing pinion supports they are abit tricky to work on. the iron HRW case,s have the big caps and 5/8 cap bolts they are nice and can take much HP but very heavy
Maybe behind a chebbie engine!!!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by pro70z28
C'mon, you know I had to say it!!!!:whacked: :whacked:
OH NO you did not hey you are a chevy guy deep down it is ok dave walk towards the light:3dSMILE:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
Dave {camaro man} Severson
:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
In your dreams!!!!! However, I gotta admit I'm starting to like these 82-89 Camaro tubs.... They do have a ton of potential to build some handling in... Got a plan I'm working on now, looks good on paper and when I get it together I'll probably put up some pics..... With as little as a 6 point bar positioned correctly, they become a very rigid unibody..... and the removable front crossmember/cradle makes for some interesting engine and front suspension possibilities.... More later, nothing definite enough to post yet....Quote:
Originally Posted by pro70z28
They all come to there sences sooner or later:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
:o wouldn't it rot your socks !!, I went and posted on the wrong post ??:CRY:
Since I just joined this site, my responses will appear to out of date as far as the person needing the reply to their question. The 9 in ford rear-end was a horse for a multiple applications. It's saving grace was it's beefy bearing race bosses and the addition of it's pilot brg on the nose of the pinion shaft. Because of these features, racers on a budget use them for good protection on failure (to an extent). The biggest detriment these faced was and is in stsock form was the centerline location of the pinion in relation to the ring gear. It's 12 degrees below the Saginaw's, Dana's, Salsbury, And other OEM suppliers. This causes the pinion gear to want to "climb" the ring gear and taking away some valuable tork when "launching" and robs a bit of rotating HP when trying to finish the run when you're on the track. I hope this helps.
I have to agree with nitro..Way back when we started with our first FC we took a look at what the other guys and the touring pros that stopped at the shop were using. There was about an even spread of Dana 60 and Fords. I made a lot of $$$ setting up Fords and fixing busted ones for these guys but I'd starved if I had to live on Dana's. So we went with the Dana and only busted one. The Dana was a bit heavier and more difficult to set up but it sure lasted longer. The Fords even with the Nodular iron case back then just came apart at the seams. Most of the guys had 2-3 spares and one or 2 in the shop. It wasn't untill Strange and MW came up with the trick cases and bearing caps that they started to stay together. Today it's just Ford. The Dana is way too heavy.
A quick note on Strange and MW.....they also offer casings with repositioned pinions for a better geometry. Gives us more choices to get it to the ground.
Here is a picture of my Narrowed Ford 9in in my 57 Belair.
This rear was built for the street with a 3link coil-over suspension.
It is a Strange Nodular center with a Daytona pinion bearing, detroit locker, and 411 gears. I run moser 35 spline axles., Ford big Drum brakes.