Personally i Prefer the heads up style of drag racing how about you? Heads up or bracket?
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Personally i Prefer the heads up style of drag racing how about you? Heads up or bracket?
Give it your all and watch as the people gawk at a 4dr beating rice and mustang alike? Heads up-thank you!
as a spectator...heads up of course...as a participant I'll never be able to afford to compete heads up, so I bracket race..& I do enjoy it... I prefer index bracket racing over dial in bracket racing though
i see you point on the expense part of it...but the cars are divided into diffrent classes...i could never get the dialin right on bracket racing
oh I realize there are alot of differant classes...still, generlly rather expensive to compete
Now, Heads up
in high school, I won the High school drags with a stock, worn out yugo:LOL: Bracket was cool to me then
Otto
heads up has always been more exciting for me
If I can ever stop breaking parts, and stop changing things around in the car so I can get another "good" run, I'll run whatever I want. Right now, I'm having a blast running test and tune and license runs.
I agree with Stepside 454; from a spectator standpoint the heads-up racing is more interesting. Unfortunately, either type of drag racing has become just a contest of money unless something breaks. Remove the stutter boxes, delay boxes, multi-stage throttle stops, tranny brakes, and all that other electronic trash and make the drivers DRIVE again. Then it might become fun again.
Not sure what bracket racing is so I guess i would say heads up is more fun.
I guess I am going against the grain here, I like the brackets. But I agree with J. Robinson, get rid of all the electronics stuff and let the driverers drive mano a mano. I like the brackets because you really have to know your car, and you better cut a good light or you lose. You can have the fun of building a car, going as fast as you can afford, and can still be competitive. You can also build one that does not break a lot of parts trying to get that last hundredth
One of our local tracks has a "No Electronics" bracket class and it is very popular.
Pat
Heads up Run what you brung
I'm with Stu on this one...Brackets, sure kills sneaky pete.
I agree (Except for the trans brake) Makes for a cooler launch.Quote:
Originally posted by J. Robinson
I agree with Stepside 454; from a spectator standpoint the heads-up racing is more interesting. Unfortunately, either type of drag racing has become just a contest of money unless something breaks. Remove the stutter boxes, delay boxes, multi-stage throttle stops, tranny brakes, and all that other electronic trash and make the drivers DRIVE again. Then it might become fun again.
I hate to see cars that are capable of runing a sec. faster than they dial in so they can come off the line hard and then play games from 1/2 track on to hit their dial in time.
thanks for your responses guys
all things close to even .......heads up.but its all about the dollars ...you got the loot and 'mechanics'and can hook it, you gonna win/simple answer.i bracket race.i hated it at first but once you get used to it..it kinda grows on ya and keeps you off the streets where its dangerous and not healthy=cops/traffic etc
I like heads up racing - and, I also agree with everyone that all the electronics need to go away (but keep the transbrakes). When we raced the Super classes in the NHRA, you not only had to be a mechanic and race car driver, but you had to be a weatherman. Why? Cuz we all know how the weather affects our cars, now throw into that mix throttle stops and delay boxes and all that crud and one degree of humidity change affects everything. It wasn't a lot of fun. Pro Stock was MUCH better! ha ha!
I have to agree with the majority that heads up is more fun to watch and probably to compete but I can't afford the $$$ for heads up racing. So I bracket race and have a blast at that. I race Modified "No Electronics". I've been driving my buddies car a few times with the electronics and the Glide and to be honest with you it's just not as fun as shifting the car yourself and launching off the foot brake or transbrake without a delay.
So based on my budget, I like Bracket racing :3dSMILE:
Thanks
Heads up is the best run what U brung 427 FE Rules
This will be a stupid question to you guy's but what is the difference between the two or what does each one mean? I don't know too much about different classes and all and am still learning.
Thanks.
Guess I will jump in on this one, heads up is when both cars leave the starting line at the same time and whichever one crosses the finish line first is the winner. Usually the fastest car will win the race, in bracket racing, the cars are dialed in to run a certain ET, (elapsed time from start to finish). Example would be a Ford runs the 1/8th mile in 8.59 seconds and a Dodge runs it in 8.69 seconds. At the starting line the Dodge would leave a tenth of a second sooner than the Ford(handicap) and if all things are equal they would get to finish line at the same time. Many variables will cause one or the other to win, but also, even if you cross the line first, you can still lose by "breaking out" This is the basics of bracket racing, to run the exact dial in of your car without going to fast. IE. would be 8.58 for the Ford, who would lose if the Dodge ran his 8.69. The whole thing is more geared to the driver and his abilities to cut a good light(quick reaction time on the starting line) and his car running dead on his dial in.Quote:
Originally posted by FMXhellraiser
This will be a stupid question to you guy's but what is the difference between the two or what does each one mean? I don't know too much about different classes and all and am still learning.
Thanks.
The classes we run here are Street, Pro/noE and SuperPro. They all have set rules to go by such as the Pro/noE's cannot use any type of electronic device to enhance the chances of winning. Super's can use any devices to launch and shift etc. Street is kind of the entry level everyday driver type class. When I first saw the brackets I thought they sucked, but after doing it for many years now, it is a lot harder than heads up, requireing good math, weather calculations and a ton of other stuff, to make the car "Consistent" on each race. Was supposed to be a cost cutting class of racing, kind of like Busch series cars compared to the Cup cars of Nascar. Does not always work that way though, always want to go faster and that costs money. Hope this sheds some light on the subject.
heads up the money or whos cheating the most win most of the time. with bracket it gives the under dog a chance to win some times. :LOL: :LOL:
Thanks for the explaination (sp) on the whole subject Old Time. There is something that I learned today. Well then I like the sounds of the heads up a bit better but I can't say nothing much since I have never raced either of those or nothing.
I agree, it is more of a bragging rights thing around here. Blowers, nitrous and 25000 dollar engines, 1500 dollar trannys and three to four bottle fills of silly gas at 45.00 a fill for a few passes a night. I love to watch them and draws big crowds to the track. But as most race engines like that goes, one wrong shot of the nos, and another engine is sent to its grave. They must have deeper pockets than me, cause they are back in a short time running just as fast. These are mostly non sponsored cars, and some 5.0 cars are running low 5's in the 1/8th at around 130 or so.Quote:
Originally posted by lt1s10
heads up the money or whos cheating the most win most of the time. with bracket it gives the under dog a chance to win some times. :LOL: :LOL:
Went to Memphis for the national event a few weeks back and saw a real boring class. Super stock and super gas cars, they run an index type race which is like heads up but they must stay under a set et like 9.50 seconds in the quarter mile. These cars are doing wheel stands at launch and then lift off the throttle for three hundred feet and then stab it again. Almost all ended up running the index of9.50 with a hundreth or two over. Don't like it at all, when that car nails the throttle and stands her up, I would rather see the whole under power run. Forgot to mention that they really don't lift off the throttle, it is controlled by a throttle stop device that is rpm activated and then deactivated again at a second rpm setting to keep the car under or at the 9.50 index. Just like beer, one guy likes one brand and another guy likes his brand. Give me basic home brew and the world is right again for me.:LOL: :LOL:
All you heads-up Guy's out there tell me, if you had the slowest car with no chance of winning you would still pick heads-up over bracket racing, get real.
i would say bracket cause i dont have the money and besides i dont like the electric garbage on my stuff just more to work on if you ask me
With all that electrical stuff you might as well buy a ricer and throw all those TV's and everything in it. heh.
I would say if it's an unsuspecting ricer let's go heads up. If they come prepared better make it bracket. He hE hE
Haha pro that little thing is sweet. Nice burn out. Well in my car I wouldn't be able to race either bracket or heads up, I would need a new class to race called flinstoning where you basically have no floors, big huge shin guards and a lot of tetnis (sp) shots, and a ton o leg muscle and you run your little ass down the track. Now that would be a good one and probably the only race a ricer could win in since they got lighter cars. If that's how racing was we all would be on a rice forum right now talking crap about heavy hot rods. hah. I can just picture it now...
Heads up racing should only be used for grudge matches or left for the street, its simple, if your a GOOD racer then bracket racing is the best, theres nothing like watching a 8 second dragster chase down a 17 second car, AND WIN, gotta love it, BRACKET ALL THE WAY, that way everybodys equal.
You know, its odd. Why do we have to pick? Why not go both? Bracket for those of us in Beater cars on the track, and of course heads up for Grudges and Street. Enjoy the best of both worlds:)
i am a drag racer who actually likes to race, tho i prefer the street, i am just as adept at the track and bout tit for tat in experience at same for over 40 years, there is much to be said in favor of heads up or bracket style racin....whatever i am drivin i will race within what i feel is the rides class...heads up, run what ya brung, for those that r in a speed class above mine i still prefer run what ya brung but to race heads up against someone u already know is faster isn't prudent, nor is that a race.....only a win for the quicker car....in that case i prefer a handicap or bracket style race......
Heads up no doubt
I like heads up racing. Nowadays, it seems like the bracket racing is getting to the point where the guy with the most money wins anyway. If you can afford all of the electronic crap to slow the car down to keep from breaking out, you win. But take out the electronic stuff and bracket is ok. I think one thing that I would like to see in the heads up is kind of like NASCAR how they only allow one engine per weekend. that way it remains a bit competitive. I just think it is silly that someone who builds his own engine and blows a seal, and has to sit out because he doesn't have a replacement, while Force can launch a rod through the block and he still runs the next match.
welcome to the real world.Quote:
Originally posted by Tommycat
I like heads up racing. Nowadays, it seems like the bracket racing is getting to the point where the guy with the most money wins anyway. If you can afford all of the electronic crap to slow the car down to keep from breaking out, you win. But take out the electronic stuff and bracket is ok. I think one thing that I would like to see in the heads up is kind of like NASCAR how they only allow one engine per weekend. that way it remains a bit competitive. I just think it is silly that someone who builds his own engine and blows a seal, and has to sit out because he doesn't have a replacement, while Force can launch a rod through the block and he still runs the next match.
Didn't Nascar just have a rule change this year about qualifying engines having to be the engine that starts the race- I think so.
Yup. (Not sure if that started this year) but if they qualify, then change engines they still qualify but have to start @ the back of the pack.Quote:
Originally posted by hambiskit
Didn't Nascar just have a rule change this year about qualifying engines having to be the engine that starts the race- I think so.
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Originally posted by lt1s10
welcome to the real world.
not yet, thinking about it, good idea though. :D
i'm new to it but i like heads up. my car is slow and i only run test and tune and i don't mind to lose to a faster car. i think it'll be a long time before i can cut a very low light all the time. the bracket racers have all the electronic stuff at our track. my friend even has a weather station setup in his rv for running his car. he's not happy if he pulls a .504 light.
I think when I first started to go to the drags they must have been using flags,( not sure) then lights,when classes were determined by weight and horsepower. I don't mind bracket racing but dont understand the sport of it when you have enough electronics to do most of the work for you.When I had my Vega,no electronics and dialed a 10:80 and ran a 10:81 or 82 it felt good . Where is the sport in the electronics doing it for you? I've never been there so I dont know.