I am looking for a dual quad intake for a stock headed 390 FE motor. Does anyone still make them or where do I look.Also does the truck bellhousing for a 4 spd. the same as for a 4 speed car trans?
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I am looking for a dual quad intake for a stock headed 390 FE motor. Does anyone still make them or where do I look.Also does the truck bellhousing for a 4 spd. the same as for a 4 speed car trans?
offenhauser make a hi rise 2x4 intake.i used one on my 65 galaxie with a 67 428. used carters carbs mounted backwards worked great better than the stock intake that i had. if it was going on a 390 why? i'm no fan of the 390. the only one that ever impressed me was the 401 hp version which was avaible in 1961 and 1962. using stock 390 heads is a no.no. be carefull of the heads that have four bolt holes on the exhaust these were heads for the 390's in a fairlanes with 2 barrel carb. they have real small intakes runners they don't breath. on the bell housing for 390 truck engine,there are 2 different housings one for the hd trans(call the granny gear trans) the other is for the 3-speed top loader which will accept a top loader 4-speed. but if the 390 is going in to a car try to find a car bellhousing.some cars use the block to support the equializer shaft some use the bell housing.
I think Edelbrock has one for afb type carbs
Blue Thunder. www.survivalmotorsports.com
Being new to FE motors can someone help me on which ford motor manifolds fit my 390 motor?this was a truck 4 barrel 390 motor. thanks
by truck---do you mean like a F150,250,350 or the bigger heavyer trucks like f600????
there are lots of differences
the edelbrock 2x4 manifold with edelbrock heads on a 390 made over 400 hp and tq---see there web site----
is it a 390 or 391?? truck engine a 391 has a forged crankshaft and other hd stuff.the truck engines usually run out of steam around 4000 rpm. get a 428 and put your money in it,you will be a lot happier. a built 428 will hold its own with just aboutanything out there. and as far a eldebrock intake and heads go they could only get 400 hp out of it . that is real sad. info like that is for bench racers i go by what you can feel in the real world(seat of the pants).
So Hotrodstude----am I a bench racer??????
This guy HAS a stock head 390----wants to know what 2x4 manifold will fit his heads---the Edelbrock will fit and support over 400 hp ( Think it was 420+) on a 390---
Sincerely your BENCHRACER pal
Jerry
Hey Jerry, maybe we should start us a "Benchracers" club, huh?????Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
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i'm under the impression that he has a truck 390. not a car 390. i've been racing and building fe ford for over 40 years along with the y-block fords. i did most of my racing on the street and a little on the tracks which i've held several track records.i only usen 410's.406's and 428s. 427s are the best fe but you pay through the nose for them.puting a 2x4 intake on a stock engine is just a little to much. a good alum.intake(offy dual port or equaflow 360 with a 600 cfm carb is the best way to go.)anytime you use more than one carb. you better have engine that can walk the walk.the 429 and 460 are so much better than the fe and cid is off the chart i have a 494 in my 69 gaxalie and there is a guy that has a 814cid.i think you will regret putting a 2x4 on a stock 390.don't waste you timme and money my advice.
The poster has a 390 in his vehicle - and asked if there was a 2x4 manifold available, not reasons why he shouldn't be using an FE motor..... he also got his answers.
Summit offers an Edelbrock 7505 (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-7505/) @~$430.00
Bench racer!!!! :whacked::whacked:
The new Edelbrock 2x4 is a nice offering but it only accepts the Carter based Edelbrock carbs. As long as your fine with that it's a non issue. Personally I think if they offered it to accept Holleys they'd be selling a ton more of them. Just another thing to think about in the overall picture.
I told Vic and his guys that if they made it for the 1800series carbs that they would sell hundreds of them but they made it (and others) so they can sell Edelbrock afb type carbs--the cobra folks would buy all they could make if they looked original----
And-----a 390 will respond better to stock type heads than the bigger engines will
The bench in my garage is a welding bench---the trophies and records are stuffed away somewhere around here--most current Hardcover books, magazines,other articals are generally put away after about a year to make room for newer ones----
over 40 years and from GA? did you ever go to Pheonix City Dragway in Alabama??? ran there a lot in 64 and 65
i live in ga. i'm taking care of my mother who is 84. i'm from missouri but have lived in va. for the last 35 years .ever heard of MIR OUTSIDE DC? 1973-1981.they have a strip in bama???? what you work for edelbrock? i'll stick with my offenhausers on the 2x4 you can mount holleys and carters. i have a bench too. it has a 1965 olds 400/375hp on it now which is being rebuilt by me its a new engine that was given to the local jr. college in nova. i bought it auction in 1977 now i'm got it torn down and going to build a chevy killer. i'm lookong for a cheevy body to put it in.and i'm just bought a 1962 lark(studebaker)which i plan to run at atlanta dragway next year.and guess what it going to be powered by a 304.5 cid studebaker v-8 R-4 engine. plus i'm driving the studebaker to the strip. i was just giving my take on overcarb.a stock engine,also weiand makes a 2x4 for the fe fords. it also takes holleys and carters. i also have a tunnel port heads and 2x4 intake for a 427.3 storage sheds of perforamce parts for every thing from a flathead studebaker 6-cylinder to a 500cid caddy. lots of ford stuff mostly y-block but not one cheevy part. are you a benchracer? i don't know you you don't know me. a benchracer is some one to talks about what a bad car they have and when they leave the speed shop they pull off in a ratty six/auto 4-door nova and leave a cloud of smoke(engine burning oil).edelbrock is not the only manifold company out there. they may be the biggest but so was general motors at one time.it may be a sbc world out there but my world is ford blue and studebaker black.have a good day.freedom is having all info in front of you.
thanks guys.a decent performer with no thought as two how many H.P. i am building a show car and want the 60s look of the dual quad FE. the engine was in a 76 f-250 2 wheel drive pu.do all the big block c-6 trans. fit the FE motors. thanks again
The 400/429/460 C 6's don't fit. Has to for FE
Thank you, I have used two 390 holleys before and they worked fine. I will search for that manifold since the holleys give me the period look i want.
Naa **) **) :pQuote:
Originally Posted by hotrodstude
Aww I read what it said before the edit and I'll take that bet. You can keep the car lenghts tho. :LOL: :3dSMILE: **)Quote:
Originally Posted by tango
And to think I changed that Post so I would not crank you up FFR428 :LOL: Ok Buddy but I want that Heads up Race with that Chevy Eating Old's First ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FFR428
Back too the 390 dual quad. post, is anyone familiar with an edelbrock manifold number f 262. thanks
It's all good Tango I was just ribbin ya a bit. :3dSMILE: And I know your sorta a Ford guy too. ;) I wish we could meet up for some fun at the track..... perhaps someday. That would be a hoot. That Monte is gonna be a quick one for sure. **)Quote:
Originally Posted by tango
AF/X the F-262 is a early 60's design and a pretty good one that I've heard. I've never run one so can't say for sure. Jerry or hotroddude might have some better feedback for ya there. The C3 lowriser Denny posted is always a nice option and fairly easy and inexpensive to find. I know a few guys who have both LR and MR intakes and can get some prices if you like.
Yes that would be great. do both these styles only accept afb type carbs?Also, being an early 60's manifold,was this consider a period correct performance upgrade for the FE. I just don't remember seeing alot of dual quad fords running carter type carbs.
tango when i'm ready i will let you know. i need to find a good cheevy body first. i'm looking at a vega wagon right now but would prefer a camero.i'll keep in touch.
altered af/x ; The weiand and the offy both accept holleys all the ford manifolds accept holleys, they also(ford) made a tunnel port type manifold where the runners went from round to the shape of the port of the regular fe heads. if your going to goshow with the smaller holleys then the low or med. rise is for you.my casting numbers notes are in my shed until i find them that is as much help as i can give you right now. both the weiand and offy are 360 intakes which is that the right side of the carbs feel the right side of the engine the left the left. there are no crising and crossing of the intake runners.
HRD that intake was the 2x4 tunnelwedge your thinking of.
AF/X the most common Ford 2x4 intakes.....
Lowriser 2X4, C3AE-9425-H, C3AE-9425-J, C3AE-9425-K and C5AE-9435-E.
Mediumriser 2X4, C5AE-9425-K, C7ZX-9425-A which was used on the 67 GT500's, SFMS-9425-A Shelby over the counter and some Holman Moody versions as well. There are also some with just the FoMoCo logo a date code and no casting number.
There might be a few more I'll look as this is off the top of my head. I emailed my buddy and will send you a PM when he gets back to me.
So all these manifolds accept the holley carbs correct.? do all the aftermarket manifolds take carter type?and all the numbers you gave fit 390 stock heads?a guy on ebay has the 60s edelbrock going around $200 but i would like the holley carb option for my motor. thanks for all the help as this is my first ford project.
I'm out on the road for a week with my wife on a little vacation---see this has turned into a editing war???????? Have fun
Yes all the factory intakes use Holleys. I'm fairly certain the F-262 does as well but never having one I'm not 100% postive. I would ask the seller on ebay too. What year is your 390 and what heads are on it? The heads casting numbers are between the center 2 sparkplugs.
Edit to add I just notced the engine is out of a 76. So it might have the D2TE-6090-AA heads?
the pass. side head reads D 2 TE AA, the drivers side reads C- 8 AE-H, Hope this isn't what it seems. Please let me know.
Yep it has 2 different heads. The D2 heads do have a slightly different chamber shape and ports were a bit more refined than the C8-H. Chamber volume is close enough to be a non issue. Also the D2 heads had induction hardened exhaust seats from the factory. Somewhere along the line the C8 head was added to replace the original D2. Or if it was even a rebuild at some point it could have come that way. Who knows but it should be fine as is. There have been quite a few documented FE's that came from the factory with mis matched heads. While it's not ideal it'll run ok.
Had to be a factory deal as this is the way it came from the factory.
ffr428;yes i had two sold both,why did edelbrock design there 2x4 to accept there carbs only just to sell more carbs? this engine has more than enough room for holleys.i know in the offy catalog that only the small engine are for carters only all the big blocks take both.
todays advice: remember the last thing you see at night may be the first thing you see in the morning. think about it.
I have a 66 Galxie with a C3AE-9425 J intake, does anyone know if there is a difference between the "J", "H" and "K" intakes? In pics I have seen, they look the same Thanks
Keith
I believe the guys on this site will know better, FordFE.com
Barry Rabotnick of Survival motorsports is on that site and he's a guru of the FE's..