Golden Age Gasser video:
I'm in this video somewhere! I'm the long-haired kid with the T-shirt and jeans. (This was about the time Montgomery was getting ready to "kill" the class!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEZA8...eature=related
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Golden Age Gasser video:
I'm in this video somewhere! I'm the long-haired kid with the T-shirt and jeans. (This was about the time Montgomery was getting ready to "kill" the class!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEZA8...eature=related
Thanks Jay! Some really great video of "the good old days"!
Gary, I believe the rules used to allow 10% engine setback, I have a source at the new track out in Pierre, SD checking on it for me. But definitely will have some setback!!! How much will be determined by the intake selection and how much room I can crowd out of the cowl area....
Going the beat everyone else on this one.I am calling out first dibs on a ride once it's done.Dave driving of course.;)Cool.:cool::LOL:
Speaking of running the car, I have emailed back and forth with the manager of Oahe Speedway, a new dragstrip (NHRA) in Pierre, SD. Last year they ran two nostalgia events with good success and are planning more for next summer. Dates aren't definite yet, but when I get them I will post it up and let everyone know when "Mellow Yellow" will make it's debut!!!! Would be a blast to have some of the CHR gang show up!!!!!
A CHR pit crew???.Couldn't get much better.:toocool:
That would be kool,Dave..I might take a rain check on that,,we are a bit far south to make it up there...:CRY::LOL:
Been thinking about the rear suspension..... Don found this picture for me of a set of long ladder bars. Trying to decide if I should build something like these in the pic, or would it be more gasser style to use a piece of rectangular tubing taper cut towards the front with a pair of the big heim joints on the end. Also, would you guys rat me out if I added a set of housing floaters between the leaf springs and the rear end housing?????? Oh yeah, think the wheelie bars pictured would be close enough to era correct for the '57?????
I like them... especially using square tubing! In the early days... as you probably know... they were much longer than the "lift-style" bars. It seems to me they were often mounted as far forward as the bellhousing area.
Aren't the ones in the picture mounted upside down?? I do like the length should look real mean under a 57 gasser
Engine setback was 10% of the wheelbase as measured from the spindle centerline to the nearest spark plug hole. (#1 driver's side front on a Chevy).
Seems that way to me, too.... Would look better if the bottom bar had an upward angle towards the front attachment point, right??
Richard, thanks!!! I wasn't thinking to the #1 plug hole but rather the front of the block!!!! Better stick with what the original rule was, huh??
I like those bars!:D I remember seeing many of that style back when (They do look upside down, though (as cffisher said). Nah, we won't rat you out on the floaters. They wouldn't be readily visible and nobody will know you have them unless they crawl under the car. You could even put coils under the rear if you wanted to (they were used sometimes back then).:HMMM: As for the wheelie bars - I don't recall seeing wheelie bars on anything until sometime in the 70s, but someone else's memory may be better than mine...:rolleyes::confused:
You won't need wheelie bars with an injected sbc. Early wheelie bars tended to be more straight up and down devices, largish wheels and right at the rear bumper, they were found on the blown gas cars.
The ladder bars shown are not upsidedown, they look kinda modern because of the pinion angle suggests that the rear sat well up into the body as opposed to 'back in the day' where the ride height was higher and the pinion angle would have been quite different.
float the axle with ladder bar is how i roll in the chevy ...dave thats the only way i would go i made up my floater stuff so you have to look hard for that
Think I'll just plan on building a set of floaters, sure does free up the rear end and get all that binding out of it.
Semi elliptic leafs where also used..........But the rebound and unload of traction made the ride interesting.:eek:**)**):LOL:
Not much to update. Should get the Plymouth out of the garage and off to the upholstery shop this week, hopefully I can spend some time at least blowing the car apart and getting the body and frame over to the sandblaster.
Latest bit of research is the possibility of running the FAST EZ-EFI dual throttle body setup on a tunnel ram. They say it will work fine. Would sure beat the heck out of having to tune the twin Holley's everytime the sun went behind a cloud or the temp changed 3 degrees....or I'm just getting old and lazy???:LOL::LOL::LOL:
I think your just gettin' old N' lazy. :LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:
I must be too because I think the EFI is a good choice. :3dSMILE:
well.... i did not see the UPS guy with any sbc heads from uncle dave:3dSMILE:
Got the '57 in the garage for the weekend and spent my time taking things apart and getting it ready to go to sandblasting. No big surprises, knew the quarters and floors needed work so the fact that they're a bit worse then I thought really isn't an issue. Going to replace them anyway.
Also got the fugly (and dangerous) front suspension off the car, got the door glass and quarter windows out, doors removed, dash panel out and some other stuff.
Spent the rest of the time planning the build and starting a parts list. Really fun working on my own stuff for a change!!!!
Here's a shot of the progress so far.
I remember a lot of the tri-five gassers had '40 to '48 Ford axles with split 'bones shoved under the stock front crossmember. Somebody did a frame stub transplant with boxed tubing on this one; that was "state of the art" back then. Very cool.:cool: What was the "fugly (and dangerous)" front suspension that you removed? Was it just shoddily done or inferior components? Is that firewall recessed in the center? Body doesn't look bad from this angle...:)
Dave, I went to a swap meet on Sunday morning and there was a 56 Chevy gasser project for sale on a trailer, it reminded me of your project. The car was about 70% done and had some nice work on it. Parallel front springs with a straight axle, 12 bolt rear with discs, traditional 6 pt rollbar setup, etc. It had a crowd around it every time I saw it.......people just love gassers. :) Never did hear a price, but I bet it wasn't real cheap.
Glad to see you getting started stripping the car down. Nice to start with a clean slate like that.
Don
Made some progress on the '57, got the firewall out and the floor removed back to the wheel wells. New floor supports are put in, still need to finish welding everything. I was really surprised how heavy all the stock pieces were...so far, 200+ pounds of old ugly fat removed and 35 pounds of supports installed!!!! The aluminum floor won't weigh much at all, so the "diet" is going quite well so far!!!!! Tomorrow's challenge is to try to get the trunk floor out in one piece...it's in really good shape and somebody will need a good OEM floor someday!!! Also not part of the net loss on weight but I think I've removed about 50 pounds of dirt, sand, and mud from the car--10 pounds of it landed in my eyes, of course!!!!!:LOL::LOL::LOL: I'll try to remember to get some pics tomorrow and post them up.
PS--Beginning to think the drip rails are just too ugly, they might have to go to the scrap pile too......
I've been waiting for you to do some more and post some more pictures. :) Sounds like you are getting her lightened up pretty good there.
I read something in a hot rod magazine one time that stuck with me. It said, rather than looking for one place to remove a thousand pounds from your race car, look for a thousand places to remove one pound. Makes sense when you think about it, there are so many parts on a car that don't really need to be built as heavily as they are, so trimming a pound here and a pound there can really add up.
Keep at it ,Dave. :D
Don
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I'd only do about a foot at a time on that project.
Following this with interest Dave as i've just started a Willys gasser myself, We need more pics though :LOL:
Got the trunk floor cut out today, man was that sucker heavy!!! Makes the whole process of new supports and aluminum floor a big payoff in the weight reduction game!!!! Here's a couple pics showing the progress so far on the floor, still have a bunch of work to do and a lot more unnecessary weight to cut out!
Yeesh,Dave..thats a crash course,if ever I saw one...Better than any Jenny Craig course I have seen..:DIts lookin good,and I think you should get a couple of hundred pounds out of that easy..Probably not far away now.
Wow you certainly have put it on a diet Dave :LOL: