Heres' one i am working on now, a '67 badly rusted and due for major work. My involvement is the sheetmetal.
I had the body media blasted and epoxy primed.
I am working on the passeger side right now.
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Heres' one i am working on now, a '67 badly rusted and due for major work. My involvement is the sheetmetal.
I had the body media blasted and epoxy primed.
I am working on the passeger side right now.
Sorry about the order of the pics. The above set is from bringing the project into the shop and when it is braced, on the rotisserie going to the media blasting.
These are from media blasing to trial fitting new sheetmetal.
Nice project. It doesn't look terribly beat up. We're collecting parts for my Mom's 68 coupe. It's getting a 5.0 fuel injected, and an AOD. Keep at it and take a lot of pics please!
It's looking good. Nice job on the bracing, that should keep her good and straight while you're cuttin' and slicin'....
Is it goin' back to original colors?
No, not original color - some sort of blue i expect, stock otherwise.
Here is todays work, the pics don't come out in the right order. i am ready to clean the torque box for repair - i have to start here because of how the sheetmetal lies. I'll have to repair the torque box, then replace the toeboard befor the floor pan.
The torque box has an odd shape and just tyes stuff together and makes little sense looking in from this angle. I fitted a piece of 16gage and cleco'd it for test fit - the hole for the frame is in it.
i then tacked welded it and slid the frame (inner rocker box) in place for test fit to see if any nasty gaps and get measurements for the toe board.
I then trial fit the toeboard. lots of trimming to get done at this point, i was concerned with the fit around the frame rail.
I cleaned the toeboard opening in the firewall and got things pretty square and trimmed the toeboard a number of time - it even had a formed feature that i had to take out so's it would lie flat on the torque box - it is a rectangular opening, i guess non-convertables don't have as much inner structure as a convertable and the toeboard would fit in them.
Anyway, it is fitted to the hole. I can't weld it as yet, i have to take it all back out and weld the panel beneath it. I'll do that tomorrow when i am nice and fresh, TIG welding on my knees with my head stuck in the bracing and maintaining just the right heat welding clean metal to rusty metal is a job best left for when i am nice and fresh.
The random nature of photos loading on this site is one of the "quaint quirks" or pains in the _ _ _!!! depending how you look at it...
I haven't seen the inside of a torque box since the 80's. Gotta say I haven't missed that view! But, your doing a fine job.
Great project, and a great start!
On the order of photos, once you do the "Insert In Line" you can hit "Preview Post" and check the order and simply highlight and drag the "Attachment" string to the order you want. Yeah, it's an extra step, but you can also put some spaces between the "Attachments", and add descriptive text for any picture, or for each of them if you want.
Another quirk is that the photos you want first or at the top load last, upload last first and so on. This was a field find or lying on the beach? Looks like you'er moving right along thou. Where are you sourcing the body parts from, easy to get? Speaking about the black sheet metal, I can tell you are fabing the others.
Thanks for the tip, i'll give that a try and maybe things will make beter sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by rspears
Pepi, I went to Virginia Classic Mustang for the sheetmetal. I have been eyeballing the fit and it seems good. I had a replacement panel for the battery tray area in front of the shock tower that was from Canada. I worked with that last week and is was the worst piece of junk - just terrible. The materials we are now getting come from taiwan and seem very well made.
Kool job..Have done my share of panel replacement in the past..Thats not too bad looking..Believe me,,we have seen worse down here...Cars that have been imported,and the previous owner has bogged up the floor pan,and covered it with black gunge..:eek:Interesting comment about your Taiwanese panels..The last time I did a doorskin on a 67 Mustang,,it was the worst fit I had done,,and spent an extra hour or two to make it look right.:LOL: I think,that some parts are good,,while others are downright shocking..Still,,I enjoy watching a rebuild of this nature..Have fun..;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ojh
Ok another stang to follow up on , I have a vert 69 Cougar here also in line down the road fairly similar
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This is the third time i have tried doing the organized picture thing with subtitles, the other times have just one into cyberspace.
there is a picture of the torque box repair, welded.
A picture of the toeboard tacked into place, i had to cut a reinforning rib out of it so's it'd lay flat.
There is a picture where i am making the clamps to draw the floor pan down, i used 5/8ths allthread and odd pieces of box tube. It wasn't enough as i had to drill and add some local fasteners at various places.
There is a picture showing the top reveal of the framerail (inner rocker), it is running high twards the front, i stuck a bottlejack (another picture) under it and pushed it into place then tacked the leading lower edge of the framerail. I moved the bottlejack toi the rear and pushed upward from the floor and tacked the rearward lower edge. I then moved the bottlejack back to the middle to push out a slight crown.
The final picture is the framerail tacked in place.
Nice work, some of those old Mustangs sure did get twisted up from all their years on the road, don't they?
I agree! It's gonna look like new when you're done smoothing her wrinkles. And thanks for the updates, we know it can be a hassle but it sure is appreciated!
Ya know... there was another guy around here that was doin' a Mustang, but he hasn't been heard from in awhile.. Oh, and a Cougar too! Bobby was his name. sure do miss ol' Bobby... nice fella... maybe he'll find his way back! rofl.. sorry for the hijack... 8-)
Great work on the rust repair!
Repop parts do have to be tweaked , i did cut out the rear around the seat belt bolt to keep it in location and not having to weld in another nut . Lazy here I guess LOL .
Your work is terrific keep posting pics you will get the hang of that .
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I clamped the floor pans into place and the fitment wasn't as good as i need so I drilled and added some other thrubolts and a large clamp in the front.
The trans tunnel of the floorpan was poorly formed, when i clamped it down the panels had to be stretched quite a bit and i even had a 'buckle' in the metal that i had to work out. Those panels look good until you try to TIG them.
The 1st two pics are the floor pan being welded in place, once clamped i started at the back tackwelding, i made my cuts about 12" ahead of my tacks and came alon behind the tacks to weld. I had very tight fit until i got up near the front where i had problems with the pan mating to the tunnell.
The 2nd pic shows the beginning of the metal finishing, i haven't gone further as i need some different grit.
The last 2 pics show what is left of the drivers' side inner rocker and cutting them loose with a broach-type spot weld cutter.
If i were to do this over i would replace the inner and outer rockers as a unit.
It'll be amazing when you're done! It's looking good in the pics.
I finished getting the old inner rocker cut out, it was different from the passenger side and i had a job getting it out without ripping the torquebox etc all apart.
Anyway, a couple pics show the drip rails cleaned up and rust inhibitive primer sprayed inside of the existing pieces.
the last 2 pics are the new inner rocker welded in place, i learned that the floor pan can be fitted with the inner rocker in place. On the passenger side i would remove the inner rocker for test fittings so it was in and out several times, i discovered that there is enough room so that the floor pan can slip in between it and the seat bracing.
I didn't have as much problem aligning the inner rocker on the drivers' side, i did use the bottle jack but just to 'finesse' it in a couple spots.
After welding the bottom of the inner rocker and drip rail i turned the rotisserie to weld the top and i could feel the structural strength and integrity of the new frame members.
Awesome work!
Looking good OJ!
Work looks super a man with a destination .
Thanks for all the kind words guys, they do help.
I ran short of argon and it took over a week to get me a fresh tank. My normal delivery driver let his hazmat/drivers licenses expire so they had to get another driver. Kinda makes you wonder, don't it.
Anyway, i am still on the drivers' side. The torquebox on this side is different in some way that i don't quite understand, the panel to cap it off is complex but the passenger side was easy. It is 16ga, a stuggle to bend and shape.
There is a picture showing the semi-clean torque box (I had yet to vacuum & prime the inside).
Another pic showing the panel during a test fit and the final pic of it while i began to weld it into place.
With the torque bax completed i test fitted the store-bought toeboard and it isn't even close to fitting, maybe the difference between a convertable and a sedan. Anyway, the storebought piece wouldn't work with the torquebox.
The pics show the pattern making, i use heavy paper (for protecting stairs during new construction) to get close to the right shape.
Another picture shows transferring onto 18ga and the early trial fitting after the piece was formed in the bead roller and brake. It has since gone thru many improvements and i hope to be welding it in place tomorrow.
How's the Mustang coming OJ?
Spectacular metal repair. Nice job!
Excellent job!
X10! Like has been said so many times above!! Keep it up, great job!!!
Sorry, i been away because of a trojan virus that ate up my computer. It had to be sent out and the whole thing whiped clean and rebuilt. I have yet to reload the pics etc. I have made some progress with the car but I also had to take a break and catch up on some other stuff.
Thanks for asking, i'll get new pics loaded in the next couple days and update the thread then.
Well, i think i can download some pics. maybe.
I have been pecking away at the floors...I got the drivers side toeboard nailed down and fitted the floorpan. They take a bit of trimming for the convertable. I think they drop right in place with a sedan. The quality of these pieces amaze me, i find small fault here and there but i wouldn't be surprised if these pieces are better quality than the ford parts 'back in the day'.
Anyway, the 4 pics show the prepped area for the floor pan, the floorpan nailed down and then there is a pic of the area under the drivers' side passenger seat that was rough. After situating the floor pan i cut the rear out and added a piece back there.
I was looking things over the other day and then realized i had the seatbelt braces on the wrong side of the floor! Isn't that the nuts?
These 5 pics show progess to the seatriser installatiion. Theres a pic that show the amount of welding in just the toebox and it isn't near complete i that pic. Another pic show the riser sitting in place, mockup thing. It was way off and took serious clamping to set it down where it belonged, this was an original piece and had been distressed when it was removed.
Another pic shows some of the work needed on the tunnel itself, pieces had to be cut out and new welded in, nomatter what you do those tunnels from GM are rough as a cobb. I added a lite coat of filler and primed the area to be covered by the riser.
the final pic is the riser in place.
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Originally Posted by ojh
Who's pieces are you welding in? Glad to hear of some quality parts for a change!! :LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by ojh
And realizing a mistake after you think your almost finished.. One of Murphy's little "surprises"... ain't it grand! :LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:
Most everything is in place and now it comes to just days of welding.
I had the new framerails weldied and everything tyed together so then i pulled the temp bracing of the bottom and unbolted the topside 'K' frame i made. I double checked all measurements and everything is deadnuts perfect.
I had to take those pieces out so i could access all the ares and complete the welding. When we send the car back out i will bolt the 'k' member back into it because it'll still be on the rotisserie and more support is better.
There are 3 pics, 2 topside views - sans seatbelt attechments! - and a bottom view to give a scope of the welding. I have gone thru 8#'s of 1/16 tig rod so far, i have no idea how many pieces that is but there isn't much left of the 10#'s that i bought to start this project with.
I played a little with silicon bronze wire too but without much luck, i thought it'd e easier to fill the odd tiny hole here and there.
One thing i will share, when tigging the new metal to the old the existing metal isn't consistant in thickness, esp in an area like the trans tunnell where the metal is stretched, you just have to keep changing your technique. It is not a straight forward operation.
I am now starting on areas inside the rear fenderwells, not enough to rip everything out but enough that we'll have to form sheetmetal.
Yeah, a goof up. When we were kids we'd do stupid stuff like this and laugh it off. Now, at our age, people think you're going senile. I think we all do stuff like that and that is what normal people do - at leats i hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by 34_40
Anyway, the sheetmeatl is in a 'Dynacorn' box and it says Tiawan, i do recall some pieces from Canada - i had a horrible battery patchpanel from Canada that came with the car and was quite old, but i had some new Canadian stuff that was very good too.
Good deal and thanks for the reply on the panels...
And I agree about getting caught with a goof up.. I just figured I must be going senile.. how could I have done THAT!..:eek::LOL::LOL:
Here are a few more pics.
I have such a hard time posting pics on here, it is frustrating. Many of the ones i selected won't load and the ones that do load won't go into order.
There are a couple showing the inner wheelwell rocker damage and repair, both rockers had to be rebuilt, this is one the right side.
There may or may not be some pics of the right rear lower quarter panel rust, i showed the clamping of a straight edge to use as a fence for the cut and the area that is cut out and the trialfit of the new panel.
there might be a couple pics showing the drivers foot area, one pic showing the welds and another pic with the welds ground and a skim coat.
The work is nearly done. I am taking better pics of the fitting and welding process of the rear patch panel that i started in these pics. I am still tack welding it and will finish it up today. That should be more interesting if i can get the pics to cooperate.
Well it looks like there's just a bit of cancer left in that Mustang. I'll bet you're glad you're on the downhill side of this job! 8-)
Oh, and I know how much of a chore posting pics can be so thanks for making time for us!
I love anything '67 Mustang, especially fastbacks. I like your car too, so good luck with the project. :cool:
Thanks, i been following along on your build...who'da thunk, a Ford engine in a Ford! That is a thumper.Quote:
Originally Posted by patfromjersey