That's going to be a very cool front mount!! What'd your machine shop buddy find with the axle? Any word yet on how they solved the problem of the hard spot?
That's going to be a very cool front mount!! What'd your machine shop buddy find with the axle? Any word yet on how they solved the problem of the hard spot?
Cheers Roger, its more or less done design wise although it may change slightly, Havn't had a chance to get to Brians shop yet as been a bit busy last few days, hopefully get there tomorrow.Quote:
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Well with Xmas & New Year out of the way normal sevice is resumed
The ply template was used as a guide for the plasma cutter, the edges were dressed and the various holes drilled, To ensure the centre hole was actually in the centre this time I turned up a piece of aluminium bar to act as a mandrel and drilled through the holes in the timing case and spotted the holes. To make it easier to remove a piece was cut out and replaced with a piece that bolts in place.
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Next the chassis mounts were made up for the early ford style mounts, someone asked how the plate was bent around the outside, I just tack it in place and then just smack it around a piece of tube with a rawhide mallet and tack weld as I go, then finish weld inside & out and then linish smooth.
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Heres the finished mount ready to weld to the frame.
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Only got a few hours in the shop last night as had to pay a visit to the Osteopath at 4pm, came back but felt like I had been in a bar fight !!! I'm sure its done me some good though.
Anyway I tried to save the original front spring U bolts but the threads were knackered so found some stainless U bolts but they were slightly too short, solved the problem by turning up some barrel nuts.
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Next job was to make up a bolt in front ladder bar mount, on the 16 chassis there are 2 chassis legs going back from the centre section, they are riveted in place so my plan is to drill out some of the rivets and use them to hold the plate in place, I will re rivet later.
First I made up the brackets for the front mount, they other side of the bracket will be the chassis leg.
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Started to make up the main base plate in 3/16" steel but back started to seize up a bit so retired for the evening.
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Not got as much done as I would of liked today as had lots of customers popping in, first person to call in was Allan (53pop) but he came in handy as I needed someone to hold the ladder bars while I marked the base plate, thanks Al.
Thought I would post a pic of the frame centre section so it all makes sense.
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Once I had a guideline it was back to the workshop to weld the brackets in place, the only piece of steel plate I had the right size was black so I expected to encounter weld problems, even after cleaning the black off it still don't tig weld that nicely for some reason ? the BMS is much nicer stuff.
First job was to get a 3" hole in the plate, a holesaw quickly did this job, next a piece of tube was spun to size in the lathe and welded into the hole with 9/16" sticking out to match the return I had planned, then the brackets were welded in place.
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Next I added a return at the rear edge to stiffen the plate.
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Here the ladder bars are temporarily bolted in place, they are 36" apart on the axle casing.
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All I need now is one fine day and I should have a rolling frame with the motor mounted
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Well finally got the last hole in the axle sorted, It still didn't drill nicely and no matter what we tried it went off slightly, there seems to be a rock hard vein running through the steel, I've decided to live with it, nobody will ever notice
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Had a slice of good fortune at the weekend as found my 56" wide rear axle casing wasn't gonna be wide enough with my 10" wide rear wheels and I would need a 58" case, Well I had ordered a new case from Curries for a customer but it had got dented slightly during shipping, Curries sent a replacement and told me to keep the old one, a couple of hours with a big fooking hammer and some heat saw it all straight again and its 58" wide
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I had a few sets of Strange axles hanging around that Strange had delivered the wrong size (don't ask, its not unusual ) Armed with my trusty tape measure I found a pair that needed 1/2" trimming off the ends and they would slide into my case perfectly
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Also found a 32 Ford aluminium radiator in my stash, its setup for a Chevy but I can adapt it to suit the ford motor easily, should keep the old Y block nice and cool.
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No body has that much stuff JUST hanging around. haha
You do know what I sell Charlie ???Quote:
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The hole looks fine, not sure which one it was!
are you just using those bar ends for mockup?????
Steve it's the one that is slightly out of line in the pic.Quote:
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Sorry Jerry, what bar ends do you mean ???Quote:
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front of the ladder bars-------or are you going to double shear mount them with a couple more plates?
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Ah, gotcha, its probably not apparent in the pics but this pic below should make it clearer Jerry, the legs going back from the centre section provide the outside joint bracket, hope that makes sense ?
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Gotcha---------------
Is the Isky cam the one they(Isky) made for ford for the supercharged 57??? ford # B7a-6250D or might have been B7Z------------
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A dry sunny day forecast for tomorrow so decided to drag the frame out of storage and get it rolling tomorrow, Yes its dark & raining here but couldn't resist drilling out the rivets and removing a small part of the centre section and bolting in the front ladder bar mount, the bolts are button heads reprofiled to resemble rivets and the nut side was spun in the lathe, once tightened down I will fill the heads with weld and fuse weld the nut in place. Looks more in keeping with the rest of the frame.
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Wow what a great day today has been, sunshine all day Got out there bright & early and got the front axle etc in place, I also made a little towing fixture which bolts to the frame to make it easier to get to and from the lockup where its stored.
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Also got the rear axle & spring all mounted, next I will mount the motor & transmission, ran out of light in the end otherwise would of got the rear wheels on
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Sorry about the last pics it was getting dark, I took some better pics next morning
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Managed to squeeze a few hours work in on sunday, mainly assembling the rear spring which feels just about perfect, welding up a few unneeded holes and cutting off the various brackets I don't need, also put a relief in the front crossmember as because the pickups are a bit small for me I want to keep as much of the firewall as possible.
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It's looking very nice and your welding and fab work are top notch!!! How does a rear suspension set up like this ride? I've never had one like this but see many around and am just curious.
Not so much done last night, but I guess anything is progress I needed a bit of 1" CDS for the tierod but had run out and didn't even have any stainless on the shelf, luckily young Gary Layton popped in with a bit an inch longer than I needed, bunged it in the lathe and trued it up and tapped for early ford tre's, I now have a rolling frame
Had a nice surprise today as my stake bed pockets arrived from Mackhills, couldn't buy Willys ones but the 39 Chevy ones are 99% correct ad almost the same thing and at $25 a piece a bargain
Gonna pop in to my mates tomorrow and get some sheet bent up for the pickup bed.
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Hahaha this is all MIG welded Ryan, I havn't picked up my MIG for 2 years so some wasnt pretty :LOL: although I cleaned it up and made it respectable :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe
I kinda like transverse springs, they work really well and give a much better ride than coilovers and they are also tuneable.
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Transverse spring? Here ya go...............
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Wow its saturday and nice & dry !!! Ideal opportunity to install the motor & transmission all the brackets were made and ready so what could go wrong ???
Got all the surfaces to be welded nice and clean and sparked up the welder.
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Yep all fits a treat !!!
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Splashed a bit of Rustoleum on to keep it nice
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Stood back to see what it looked like and thought "wasn't you gonna put the motor mounts lower ? " Damn !!! in my rush to get them on I had welded the level with the top instead of level at the bottom
To much work to move them now as those suckers are proper welded in !!! Instead I will alter the front mount, that's how it goes sometimes, not worth rushing
Its not how you screw up but how you get out of it that counts
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Had to make slight modification to one centre section leg that goes forward, the new bell housing is pretty big and fouled on the leg, Out with the cutting disc and that was quickly solved I will fold up a piece to replace it that has a slight dogleg.
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Next job is to make a transmission mount, something like the front motor mount would be nice.
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You must have the most understanding neighbours who don't mind the sound of cut off discs and grinders first thing in the morning ? very nice though and can I ask please, what is the idea of the jockey wheel on the draw bar as I know why you have fitted the draw bar by can't think what the jockey wheel is all about ?
Whip I never start work outside till after 9am, the jockey wheel is to lift it as I take the front wheels off when I move it otherwise things would beak !!! You can't have a rigid drawbar and all 4 wheels on the ground.Quote:
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Oh, okay, so the draw bar is not for what I believed it was for. I did work for a guy that built race cars and he had a draw bar on the front of his shop truck to be used to be able to drag the cars out and around his workshop as each of his cars had a toe ball fitted at the front of the vehicle which allowed him to hook up a car and with me or somebody else steering move it about easily but with your front wheels removed it becomes like a trailer to be towed anywhere. I forgot too that it doesn't get light over there until 8.30 am during winter so the neighbours should be up and about.
Not done much past few days as had some flu virus knocked me for 6 for a few days but improving now, worst thing is it left me with a horrible cough, not the ideal thing to do when tig welding
Anyway tonight I got a bit done, first I finished the trans mount I had started on saturday, I didn't have a C4 rubber mount so adapted a TH350 mount.
I also done the modification to the front engine mount but the paint wasn't dry enough to handle so pic tomorrow.
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Heres the actual mount
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Nice work ..How much ground clearance did you wind up with??
Didn't measure it charlie but i can slide underneath it :LOL:Quote:
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yea it just looked closer I know better with your skills
Finished the mods to the motor mount.
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I noticed the mount rubbers were spreading slightly under the weight of the Y block so I spun some cups up in the lathe in alumnium to support them. The mounts always used to come with cups but not anymore ?
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Very nice work! I like your save on the engine mount situation. Thanks for posting this build. It is nice to see how others build their own parts. I sometimes have issues on trying to build a certain bracket and not have it look hacked in mhy mind. :LOL: That trans cross member is very cool. I'm with you as well on those front mounts. Mine didn't come with any cups and I need to get some too.
Last couple of evenings have been spent making some stainless headers, the flanges I ordered from the laser cutter turned up real quick (thanks Paul) so I set to it.
The Y block has square exhaust ports so first job was to make up some round tube with squares on the end to match the ports, I did a small video that explains the process here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC0SWpfWEoo
Heres a few pics but the video explains it better than words
The primary tubes are 1.75" Stainless steel, Flanges are 5/16" stainless steel, I kept the design simple to save time.
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I got this far but run out of bends so come to a stop till tuesday.
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Wow cool video Steve. Thanks for taking the time to post the process!
Steve, is that square tapered jig something you fabricated?
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Yes Roger, must of made that about 40 years ago to make SBF headersQuote:
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