texas d.o.t. impersonater

I'll try to keep my comments as PC as possible. I have no problem with people who come to this country and who do it the right way, and in the same manner our Grandparents and their Parents did it........................learn the language, get a job, pay taxes, become a citizen, obey all the laws, and generally be a nice person. I DO have a problem with people who want to continue to converse in their native tongue and not learn English, who take all the Government handouts they can get, have no intentions of becoming a legal citizen, and fill up our courts and jails because of their unwillingness to not break laws.

I know this is a generalization, and for that I apologize. But something has got to be done about all the people coming here with no intentions of doing it the right way.

Don

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Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

I'll try to keep my comments as PC as possible. I have no problem with people who come to this country and who do it the right way, and in the same manner our Grandparents and their Parents did it........................learn the language, get a job, pay taxes, become a citizen, obey all the laws, and generally be a nice person. I DO have a problem with people who want to continue to converse in their native tongue and not learn English, who take all the Government handouts they can get, have no intentions of becoming a legal citizen, and fill up our courts and jails because of their unwillingness to not break laws.

I know this is a generalization, and for that I apologize. But something has got to be done about all the people coming here with no intentions of doing it the right way.

Don

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I agree 100 % with your first post on this thread but the second, well.....People converse in there native tongue. So Italians ,Asians,Russians, etc.,etc.,etc. speak English 100% of the time? Then you talk about taking all the hand outs they can get. I could be wrong but I remember a few years ago hearing that Caucasians were the ones using up the majority of welfare. I am also sure you were not talking just about Mexicans , you were talking about EVERYONE thats here illegally. I am sure the others are glad to know the attention is on the Mexicans only,You know like Russians,Asians, etc,etc,etc,. Theres a lot of people here illegally that are not Mexican if you can believe that......... Thats my problem , you people single out the Mexicans to the point where I would call it RACISM, there are PLENTY others screwing the system!

Saying that ,I will now say, Yes get track of everyone! Send them back to where ever they came from! Not just MEXICANS!

Yeah, I agree with some of that. My Grandfather came over on the boat from Czechoslovakia at the end of the 1800's. He and my Dad did speak some Russian at home, but not 100 percent of the time. (Usually when they were arguing :LOL: :LOL: ) But people of that era cherished the thought and prospects of becoming Americans. Sure, they kept part of their heritage, but for the most part tried to fit in with their new home. Most worked hard to make a decent living and teach their children right from wrong.

And while my comments may have the appearance of being directed at one group in particular, they weren't intended to be that way. That group is just the most prevalent right now here in S. Florida. But the crime issues are certainly not exclusive to only one nationality.

Don

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Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Yeah, I agree with some of that. My Grandfather came over on the boat from Czechoslovakia at the end of the 1800's. He and my Dad did speak some Russian at home, but not 100 percent of the time. (Usually when they were arguing :LOL: :LOL: ) But people of that era cherished the thought and prospects of becoming Americans. Sure, they kept part of their heritage, but for the most part tried to fit in with their new home. Most worked hard to make a decent living and teach their children right from wrong.

And while my comments may have the appearance of being directed at one group in particular, they weren't intended to be that way. That group is just the most prevalent right now here in S. Florida. But the crime issues are certainly not exclusive to only one nationality.

Don

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Don I have been to Florida, I make it about 6 times a year to work with local people. So I can tell you this with experience from being there. There are not many Mexicans there in Florida. All though they might speak Spanish and you categorize them as Mexican, they are not..... From all the times I have been there I can not even count on my hands how many Mexicans I ran into. I am not saying Florida is "Mexican Free" but the majority the Spanish speaking people there are not Mexican.

But really this has gone on way to long. It does not matter what nationality you are ,if you are in a land with endless opportunities and there is no record of who you are you can get away with murder, literally.

I don't hold anything against people who come to this country as long as it is done legally. My ancestors came here from England in the mid to late 1600's. Techically they were illegals, at least to the local native americans. :LOL:

Mexicans do take the brunt of a lot of the accusations, because they are the ones coming in waves. But, I don't care if they are from Mexico, Canada, Iraq, or Cambodia, if they are here illegally, then they should get legal or get out. Florida does have a mixed bag of latino nationalities, Cubans to the south, Central Americans all over, and a fair amount of Mexicans as well. Especially in central Florida. Many of whom are there legally, because they want to be legal. Many are very hard working people who have businesses and are an asset to their communities.

the people from below the boarder who have settled in my area are greatly appreciated .. they are willing to do the work that us lazy white boys wont do for 7 bucks an hour .. they pick the fruit .. they mow the yards .. they pick up the trash .. the asphalt the roads .. they mostly earn their keep ..

i dont care if they are hard working or not green card, no? GET LOST YOU BUM!

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i dont care if they are hard working or not green card, no? GET LOST YOU BUM!

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I think we need to just buy our own country, a big island would do..... Anybody know if Hawaii is for sale????

Another thing I found odd. I was in Mexico city and speaking with about 8-10 Mexicans at diner I asked them what was there thoughts on the drugs coming from their country. What they told me was as long as the Americans DEMANDED the drugs there is money to be made and they will make it. They really could not understand Americans fascination/demand with drugs.

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I think we need to just buy our own country, a big island would do..... Anybody know if Hawaii is for sale????

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anything is for sale for the right price, ive got 34 dollars. come on everybody dig in them pockets.

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Originally Posted by mooneye777

anything is for sale for the right price, ive got 34 dollars. come on everybody dig in them pockets.

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Tenants will be here the end of the month to pay rent, after I get all my bills paid I should have about $34.00 left, too!!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

I agree that the word Mexican has come to be a broad blanket to cover many Hispanic groups, just like we blame the Chinese for producing all the crap parts we all complain about. In fact, many of these parts come from many other countries.

Contrary to what may have been interpreted here, I have no problem with Mexicans, or Cubans, or any other Nationality coming here. (Let's face it, we probably weren't on the American Indian's guest list either !:o ) What I do have a problem with is when ANY incoming group takes more from the country than they are willing to put back. I know illegals here (personally) who have their Kids getting free lunches at school and free medical care. Yet a staggering number of middle class, hard working people in this country do NOT have health care................I am one of those people.

I mentioned a while back that I worked with an illegal who I like a lot. However, as nice as he was, he had no hesitations about having his kids signed up for Medicare and Government handouts, even though he had health insurance available to him at work that he could have bought. He simply figured why should he buy it when he could get it free. BTW, he did not make $ 7 an hour either, he made $ 22 plus bonuses. He also found out that at Christmas various churches would give needy families free dinners. So he went to 5 churches and threw a big party for all his friends. :mad:

Are all of the imigrants like that? Absolutely not, but enough are that our Government resources are being diverted to support them........and we are the ones paying that bill.

Don

Speaking about health care and insurance---when I was flying the B737 I flew to Mexico City a lot(1988--) down there the doctors and lawyers drive taxicabs as no one uses medical services and no one has enough money for any one to sue---so there perspective is out a kelter for the way we do things here.
I am surprised that no one responded to my idea of taking Panama canal back and building the much shorter fence between Panama and Columbia---stop the drugs!!!
Annex Mexico and Cetral America---make them territories just like American Samoa and PR---They would then be citizens and we could tax them---there money spent there would be in our economy

Jerry

Don I'm with you. I work in a neonatal intensive care unit in california. 70-80% of our clients are illegal aliens who are uninsured. A friend once said calling an unlicensed citezen an illegal alien is like calling a drug dealer an unlicenced pharmacist. I like hispanic people. I probably wouldn't have a job without them as they are the largest baby producing population where I work. Where I do have a problem is when Nurses I work with can't get the same health care coverage as the illegal aliens!:CRY: If you want to know what is raising the cost of your health care look to illegal aliens exploiting poorly written medical laws. We could fund one hell of a national health care plan with our citizens only. It is a shame that our borders are so easily crossed and our system which was made to help the more needy is exploited the way it is. I met a sweet couple of working class citizens a few months ago who begged to leave the hospital early because they had to pay their bill out of pocket! These people both worked, and payed into Social Security and Medical, but weren't entitled to it for they earned too much, but not enough to pay foor health insurance. This is a national problem, and unfortunately the largest offenders are Mexican Illegal Aliens. Does it make them bad people no.... Does it make it right Hell no! If an Iraqi was here illegaly he'd be serving time in Guantonoma Cuba , but Mexicans pretty much come and go as they please using your hard earned tax dollars to their benefit. I joke with coworkers about how we pay our own salaries funding Medical for people who don't pay into the system. I don't know the diffinative answer, only the current system is not working. :eek: