A Bad Crash

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Originally Posted by 61bone

Think I would much rather bang my head on a roll bar than the ground

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I don't know if you would consider this relevant to that, but i was knock unconscious in my pro stocker from tire shake with my head bouncing around inside a funny car style cage. So to bounce around in a street rod with a seat belt on with your unprotected head hitting a roll bar, I don't know, every accident is different. I think if you have the perfect wreck under the perfect circumstances you could live under any situation. But unfortunately that isn't the case, most of the time
Ken

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Originally Posted by Ken Thurm

Thanks for all the well wishes. They thought at first he was going to lose a arm, but doesn't seem to be the case now. He is doing much better.
Pat, it has a bolt in funny car cage he puts in when he would race it. I first thought that it might be a good idea if he would of had it in but changed my mind thinking about it, he may of had more serious head trauma getting rattled around in it with out a helmet on.
Ken

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Ken,

Still not second guessing the cars build.The thing is a bolt in cage running in the 8's??.I am asking about it and it cert with NHRA or IHRA???.I wouldn't think that would pass.

We all got to remember a time's factor of the wt of the car in a rollover.The first roll being the worse until the car slows down.

In all the yrs of racing very early on I have only been on my head once.Just like it is reported from many people,I remember the seconds before the car hit in the first roll and how quiet it seemed thinking this is going to hurt.Then two more rolls and I am told there where 7 before landing upright.It took 5yrs for that recall to come back to me.My head got banged up pretty good even wearing a approved helmet in the car's cage.So I do agree you could get killed by a cage without a helmet on the street.Also in open race cars there are arm restraints to keep them in the car and in a street car that wouldn't make sense.Here it seems his arm injuries are related to that factor.


All and all it's good to hear he is doing better and my concern would be how much of his arm's use is he going to get back.I am going to still pray for him for a full recovery and I hope for him that he doesn't remember much about it for awhile allowing him to heal first.

The Nevada Highway Patrol investigated consecutive-day fatality crashes that killed a 44-year-old Minnesota woman Sunday.

Tracy Fons, 44, of Eden Prairie, Minn., was a passenger Sunday in a 1932 Ford Roadster convertible driven by Thomas Taxon, 64, of Reno, when 83-year-old Bernice Rodgers, 83, turned in front of them to access a South Virginia Street casino parking lot.

Fons died at the scene. Rodgers, her husband and passenger, Harry Rodgers, 84, and Taxon were taken to Renown Regional Medical Center for treatment. Bernice Rodgers and Taxon were listed in fair condition Monday, said Trooper Chuck Allen, while the condition of Harry Rodgers was not known.

The crash occurred about 4:15 p.m. Sun., in front of the Tamarack Casino.
Allen said Bernice Rodgers was driving a 1998 Mercury Tracer north on Virginia Street when she turned left in front of Taxon, who had been heading south on Virginia Street. She was turning into the casino parking lot when Taxon tried to avoid the collision, and instead struck the right side of the Mercury.

Both Taxon and Fons were wearing lap belts in the antique roadster.

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Wow, that's horrible. They must have really smacked into the old ladies car to do that much damage and also to kill them both. So sorry to hear about this one too. I feel terribly for the victims and the families.

I'm taking mine out for a little drive today and I sure will have these tragedies on my mind as I am out there. As a side note, I sure hope all these recent incidents don't start some legislators thinking hot rods shouldn't be on the roads. We all know how they love to pass laws to justify their existence.

Don

I am thinking seriously about running at least a 6 point cage in my '46 ..... I'll see when I get the seats set up. Mat be more ....

To bad on the Nevada crash.

REGS

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Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Wow, that's horrible. They must have really smacked into the old ladies car to do that much damage and also to kill them both. So sorry to hear about this one too. I feel terribly for the victims and the families.

I'm taking mine out for a little drive today and I sure will have these tragedies on my mind as I am out there. As a side note, I sure hope all these recent incidents don't start some legislators thinking hot rods shouldn't be on the roads. We all know how they love to pass laws to justify their existence.

Don

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Yeah,Don..they dont need the ammunition,but,how many hotrods are involved in smashes,in comparison to regular cars??

Do we have any follow-up info on this accident? There was another accident this week with exactly the same results. Something broke and the car suddenly turned right, hitting a tree. The driver was very lucky to have escaped with only a brokem leg. The pictures of that car are not clear enough to tell for certain but I suspect the batwing/ sppring perch hanger bolt broke.
I am really frustrated that we are unable to get to the source of these problems.

Here is a picture of the other car.

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Originally Posted by volksrod

Do we have any follow-up info on this accident? There was another accident this week with exactly the same results. Something broke and the car suddenly turned right, hitting a tree. The driver was very lucky to have escaped with only a brokem leg. The pictures of that car are not clear enough to tell for certain but I suspect the batwing/ sppring perch hanger bolt broke.
I am really frustrated that we are unable to get to the source of these problems.

Here is a picture of the other car.

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I agree with your comments on the parts breakage. The thing that really makes you wonder is on a Volks Rod application the front end has just a small fraction of the weight that a V8 powered rod has on the front end. Those front ends are built for V8's, just look at the number of leaves in that spring. Scary breakage.

You're right John. I just recieved another picture that helps to clarify a little bit but it poses more questions than answers. The owner of the car is supposed to call me by the end of the day. If he does, I will let you guys know what he says.

The older we get, the more sobering this information. When we're young, we think we're bulletproof, then we find out we're not. I've built a 454-powered "A" sedan, an 8.50/175 mph Super Comp car, a high-10's GTO, and my current lowboy. I have confidence in my work, but I'm always thinking about the all those bolts that I tightened and all the welds I made. Did I get them all right? When I take the coupe out of storage in three years (sigh!), every bolt and nut is going to get another going-over.

The worst that ever happened to me was a rear 4-bar bracket on the rear axle of the A-bone that folded up when I hit second gear. It tilted the pinion up quit a bit and skewed the rear axle out of line, but I got it stopped without incident. If that had been third gear and a lot more speed . . . well, I hate to think about it.

I wish the gentleman in the yellow roadster a complete recovery.

unfortunately we buy parts and don't know where they come from. So many venders today sell junk made in China and such and the people in those countries really don't care if we die.

Looks more so an issue with the axle .... it was made by???? All the other pieces look & appear to be intact.

REGS

is that an aluminum axle?????

To me .... based on the area that it broke at it sure looks cast (steel). I might be wrong but I don't see aluminum being that "grainy".

REGS

It looked to be cast aluminum to me too, when i looked at it, the color even looks aluminum