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Getting away from the GM debacle ...... I ran across this while having my 2nd cuppa joe this morning. It's from Charles Krauthammer and makes for some perverse reading:

"Barack Obama: Drone Warrior

By Charles Krauthammer, Published: May 31

A very strange story, that 6,000-word front-page New York Times piece on how, every Tuesday, Barack Obama shuffles “baseball cards” with the pictures and bios of suspected terrorists from around the world and chooses who shall die by drone strike. He even reserves for himself the decision of whether to proceed when the probability of killing family members or bystanders is significant.

The article could have been titled “Barack Obama: Drone Warrior.” Great detail on how Obama personally runs the assassination campaign. On-the-record quotes from the highest officials. This was no leak. This was a White House press release."

The rest of the article is here and well worth your time to read: Barack Obama: Drone Warrior - The Washington Post

Just following the example of another Democrat, good old Lyin' Lyndon of the Great Society days (daze?) when he selected targets up North for the Buff's to hit. Just an upgrade in technology!!!!!

Now, if he would just endorse another course of action set down by his precedent, "I will neither seek, nor will I accept ............:LOL::LOL::LOL:

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Just following the example of another Democrat, good old Lyin' Lyndon of the Great Society days (daze?) when he selected targets up North for the Buff's to hit. Just an upgrade in technology!!!!!

Now, if he would just endorse another course of action set down by his precedent, "I will neither seek, nor will I accept ............:LOL::LOL::LOL:

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To me, the problem is not the activity (if it is indeed true), but the publicizing of the activity as a ploy to paint the man as a fighter. In the global arena he's probably the least respected American president we've ever seen. I agree it would be a great thing if he would follow Lyndon's example on a second term.

Thanks much for that link, Dave.

I'm going to send it to every "Obamite" I can think of so that they will have the opportunity to read and ponder Mr. Krauthammer's column.

WHICH, OF COURSE, THEY WILL NOT DO.


Jim

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Thanks much for that link, Dave.

I'm going to send it to every "Obamite" I can think of so that they will have the opportunity to read and ponder Mr. Krauthammer's column.

WHICH, OF COURSE, THEY WILL NOT DO.


Jim

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Jim - while I commend you for doing that, just remember that when you provide facts to most libtards/socialists, they either change the subject or have no clue as to what you are saying. Luckily, that's not 100% of the time, as there are some folks that are that way because of reasons - i.e. their jobs, spouses/partners or other.

I always listen to what Krauthammer says and it's always well thought out and agree with probably 99%

Can someone explain why they make a big deal about gas prices coming down 0.19 in 6 months when they say nothing about it going up .20 every other week

What I've heard lately out of the ultra's (left and right) kind of comes down to "I've already made up my mind, don't confuse me with the facts."
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Do ya think Obama hired Trump to go to the big fund raiser in Vegas for Romney????:LOL::LOL::LOL:With a friend like Donald you can't afford to have any enemies!!!!!

The way I see it, it's one of the few positive things to happen lately and the liberals will jump on giving credit to Obama, though I seriously doubt that had anything to do with it. That being said it's possible that the speculators caved in to pressure from the administration though anything is possible.

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Can someone explain why they make a big deal about gas prices coming down 0.19 in 6 months when they say nothing about it going up .20 every other week

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I think it's called cheer leading..............they want to spin anything possible in a positive direction for their guy to get re-elected. Even heard some attempts at trying to spin the increase in unemployment numbers, and the miserable new job creation stats a couple days ago.

What I wonder is, where did all the folks go who always attack the future traders as "speculators" when the prices are going down as those guys are just as active on the down stroke as on the up stroke? Natural gas prices have halved in the past year........if folks are to be consistent shouldn't they be "blaming" the "speculators" for that?

Missed your post Ken, looks like I was typing when you posted.

As for the traders, it's a matter of market conditions. First, Europe is moving ever closer to having to admit that a couple or few states are about broke and may have to bail on the Euro. That in turn has strengthened the dollar and weakened gold and other commodities. Since oil is priced in dollars a stronger dollar means that the price can come down a bit based on higher value of money traded for. Add to that that China is compressing some in their economy, lowering demand slightly, and it's logical to be bidding down future prices. There are even more factors to be considered but those should be enough to make the point. Maybe some day we as citizens will come to recognize that the notion of private sector "greed" is proffered by the politicians and their lap dogs to strengthen their hold over us. Give me the free market (please!) over a genuinely greedy (for power) politician any day.

This morning at about 0400 I stumbled out to the road to get the labor-liberal rag we use for a newspaper in the Fort Worth area. I was anxious to look at final vote count from Wisconsin. I stayed awake long enough last evening to hear that the call was in favor of the governor.

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram tells me that that Governor Walker "survived a recall effort" and tried to make it sound like it was no big deal.

He more than survived. Winning 53 to 46 percent is more than survival.

THAT'S AN OLD FASHIONED A-WHUPPIN'!

I'm buying the adult beverage.

Jim

In political terms it may be a whuppin', and about time IMO, but it's still a slim balance when you consider that it's the producers vs the takers when you get to the details. Union sentimentalists who operate from emotion rather than reality won't agree, but that's another discussion.

Like little children, who are also takers rather than producers, the hissy fits begin: Gov. Scott Walker death threats after recall victory being investigated by police - NY Daily News

I'm sure the President will take a couple minutes from his full time job of fund raising to urge civility on the part of his allies (sure :rolleyes:).

It sure is a slow prosses but at least we'er moving And I believe in the right direction.From what I understand our gov. here has us in the black and unemployment is lestening. We'll see.

The government doesn't have to do it, private citizens still care!!!!! Just watching the early news, a private organization in Sioux Falls is providing "brown bag" lunches to people who are trying to work their way out of poverty.... With nothing more then a poster at Job Service, folks who have been unemployed and find themselves a new job can stop by this volunteer organization and grab a free brown bag lunch to take to work with them!!!!

No big deal you say? Well, they put out 400 free lunches every day for these new hires, and if you've been one of the folks unemployed for anytime at all the free meal probably helps a lot. The contents of the lunch would cost you about $6.00 per day or $30.00 a week---for those just going back to work, 30 bucks a week can be a lot!!! Best part is, it doesn't cost us taxpayers a dime, contributions come from business and individuals in the Sioux Falls area. Those who can help, have the opportunity to do so. Goes to show that things can be accomplished to help people trying to help themselves without yet another ridiculously expensive and wasteful government program!!!!!!

That's an interesting approach to the situation, Dave.

I'm sitting here wondering where one should go to suggest that a system like that might work in my area.

My first thought was the local Chamber of Commerce but I'm kinda "persona non grata" around there.

Jim

Ya think the American people aren't upset with the Campaigner in Chief. Just seen on Drudge:

"(Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and Republican groups raised more than $76.8 million in May, his campaign said on Thursday, topping the $60 million President Barack Obama and his Democratic allies hauled in.

The campaign and Republican National Committee have $107 million cash on hand, the campaign said."

Oh and this as well - nice guy!!!!

"President Obama, in Los Angeles for a fundraiser, offered this observation on his wife's exercise routine, via the pool report:
“Michelle outdoes me in pushups as well,” he said, after saying that she’s taken some criticism on her technique “because she doesn’t go all the way down” – a line that he let hang, naughtily, provoking laughter from the crowd."

There are more comment on line about this, but this is NOT what I need to hear from our so-called president in a public gathering.

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Ah, if only Alan hadn't gone back into the witness protection program again.................;)

He'd be on here wailing about the Citizen's United decision, evil corporate donations, and how much out of state money Gov. Walker used to beat his noble opponent yesterday. As a public service to my fellow travelers an advance B.S. alert to keep in mind during the next 5+ months. That being the misinformation about campaign contributions.

First the observation of a paradox. When then Sen. Obama outspent Sen. McCain in 2008 by something around 3 to 1, it only warranted a passing mention. Often couched in phrasing that pointed out how much valid support Obama was getting based on the dollar flow. Now? Well, if Mr. Romney is able to raise as much, and worse if he raises more, it will be illegitimate money.....evil corporate money.....buah ha ha....:rolleyes:

Second, an alternate game as we saw in so much "reporting" yesterday. You may have heard that Walker outspent his opponent by 7 to 1....that's why he won. And most of it was "out of state money", as if to invlidate those contributions. Well, the truth is somewhat different. The two parties (making that distinction because there were more than just two candidates for one office, there was also the Lt. Gov, and four state senate seats in play) benefitted from nearly the same amount of donations; Media Cite False Spending Differential To Explain Walker Win For fun though let's just play with the numbers the whiners were using yesterday. They said Walker got $30 million, to Barretts $4 million (rounded for discussion sake). And they would add that 2/3 of Walker's contribution came from "out of state". Some math......that means $10m from in state. So, let's assume that ALL of the money they claim went to Barrett was from in state (not realistic, but still works for the real point here). That means that STILL from in state contributions Walker pulled 2 1/2 times more support.....yes, in state contributions. So what's the point? Surprise,:rolleyes: the news is spun.

Lastly, NONE of this has to do with the Citizen's United decision. That decision relates only to federal campaign finance.......NOT state level elections. And another point, the Citizen's United decision benefits BOTH labor unions as well as corporations.

Facts don't support the whines.................but then, that's not really a surprise either is it?

Can't be serious political stuff all the time, so how about a little humor. John Cleese is one funny Brit............


ALERTS TO THREATS IN 2012 EUROPE
BY JOHN CLEESE

The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent events in Libya , Egypt and Syria and have therefore raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.

The Scots have raised their threat level from "Pissed Off" to "Let's get the Bastards." They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.

The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France’s white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.

Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout Loudly and Excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides."

The Germans have increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniforms and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose."

Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels .

The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

Australia , meanwhile, has raised its security level from "No worries" to "She'll be alright, Mate." Two more escalation levels remain: "Crikey! I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!" and "The barbie is cancelled." So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.

-- John Cleese - British writer, actor and tall person

A final thought: Greece is collapsing, the Iranians are getting aggressive, and Rome is in disarray. Welcome back to 430 BC.

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That's an interesting approach to the situation, Dave.

I'm sitting here wondering where one should go to suggest that a system like that might work in my area.

My first thought was the local Chamber of Commerce but I'm kinda "persona non grata" around there.

How about Job Service, Jim??? Though another government institution, there might be someone there who actually cares about their clientele!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim

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How about Job Service, Jim??? Though another government institution, there might be someone there who actually cares about their clientele!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our friend Mike wants to make sure we aren't unfair to our current President. He reminds: "Don't be so hard on Obama. A lot of people fail at their first job."

Not being hard on him,I'm just realy disapointed, and ashamed.

How about a little ray of hope......................no, I mean REAL hope, not an empty campaign slogan.

To those of us of a more conservative nature the following statement might induce a very hearty DUH!, but you need to keep in mind that the Brookings Institute self describes as an "....institue with a left-liberal inclination....". Most often those on the left choose not to accept that their ideas fail time and again no matter how they claim them as "new" or "progressive". It's inconceivable that their ideas are rejected by those who recognize that reality, instead it's that not enough of someone elses time/money was "invested", or that they were outspent (see all the commentary following the whipping the left took last week).

This from today's Wall Street Journal "Notable & Quotable" section referring to Senate testimony last week. Maybe, just maybe, the more thoughtful on the left can steer their side back to reality:

Brookings Institution Senior Fellow Ron Haskins testifying before the Senate Finance Committee, June 5:


I want to emphasize the importance of individual initiative in reducing poverty and promoting economic success. Young people can virtually assure that they and their families will avoid poverty if they follow three elementary rules for success—complete at least a high school education, work full time, and wait until age 21 and get married before having a baby. Based on an analysis of Census data, people who followed all three of these rules had only a 2% chance of being in poverty and a 72% chance of joining the middle class (defined as above $55,000 in 2010). These numbers were almost precisely reversed for people who violated all three rules, elevating their chance of being poor to 77% and reducing their chance of making the middle class to 4%.

Individual effort and good decisions about the big events in life are more important than government programs. Call it blaming the victim if you like, but decisions made by individuals are paramount in the fight to reduce poverty and increase opportunity in America. The nation's struggle to expand opportunity will continue to be an uphill battle if young people do not learn to make better decisions about their future.

OMG - it took a 'highly regarded' think tank with highly compensated people to come up with that widely known (at least I thought so) common sense info. We here in the US of A are deep in that smelly barnyard stuff!!!

Bob that pretty much sums it up. Around here, a lot of unemployment is by choice and sense of entitlement. The more we tax ourselves(those of us currently working and paying taxes) the more the entitlement programs offer excuses for people to not work. Sad but very true. I know it's hard, most of us live paycheck to paycheck, while putting money aside where we can for emergencies, and retirement. The irony is, I'm slowly going negative, not positive, despite working more. Increasing my taxes is no longer an option. So I will be changing my voting party for the first time, not because I agree with conservatives or liberals, but because, the system is broken, and the rapidly increasing few who support it are being bled dry by those who chose not to. I get it now!

Our government is expanding more A special group has been hired to find the leak in the White House about our Special Drone attacks. Those guys OR girls will be on the payroll till they retire. One would think there are enough Special groups out there now!!! If and when they find out who it was they should have a poll on what to do with them. Maybe give them a ride on one???

Anyone else feeling the pinch? I retired a few years ago then when we thought we were going be fine, my wife pulled the plug as well. While we haven't lost too badly, our investment portfolios are struggling to at least stay even. Add a couple of years of no SS increases, the fact that I missed my GE pension increase by 24 days, we're in a home that hasn't had any appreciation in 4 years and even in our 5% unemployment area. I'm still driving a 2006 pick up truck tho my wife did have to buy a new car this year (bottom of the heap Fusion - which is really a nicely equipped car). Now, this is makes my suspicions confirmed:

"The net worth of the American family has fallen to its lowest level in two decades, according to government data released Monday, driven by a more than 40 percent drop in their stakes in their homes.

The Federal Reserve’s detailed survey of consumer finances showed families’ median wealth plunged from $126,400 in 2007 to $77,300 in 2010 — a 39 percent decline. That put them on par with median wealth in 1992." Fed Report: Family Net Worth Falls Almost 40% Between 2007-2010

Oh and don't forget, this started under 'W' - but that fact that the Senate and House were under Dem rule seems to be ignored/forgotten by the Libtards

Then there's this little gem:
"Since President Barack Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, the Federal Reserve’s holdings of U.S. government debt have quintupled, according to the Fed’s official monthly balance sheet." Top Customer: Under Obama, Fed

How's that 'change' workin' for you now???

Dave, if it makes you feel any better you're not alone...............but I suspect you already know that and it's of little comfort.

Again, to resurect one of my frequently made statements, it would take a long, analytical book to go through all the interconnected reasons why it is what it is. But a quick commentary on the subjects you posted. The drop in net worth actually started with the dot.com bust in '99/2000, though it became most visible at the beginning of the G.W. regime. His biggest sin was not weilding the veto pen enough and taking on a spend thrift Congress. Funny how the current Pres., and even moreso his sychophantic supporters, want to lay off responsibility for the economy on the Congress today, while recently they blame all eight years of the 43 Presidency for the economic contraction that preceded him. I guess I missed the Constitutional Amendment that passed limiting Presidential power when Mr. Obama took office.:)

The biggest hole in the bucket of family wealth in the past five years is almost entirely the result of the retraction in home values with the real estate crash. Some is attributable to 401Ks shrinking, especially for those who panicked early, sold their stock holdings at market lows and either didn't reinvest or spent the money. Much of stock market value has recovered, but then that's of little solace as even if an investor held relatively pat they have not seen much gain in 4-5 years. Which leads to the inflation hole in the bucket.

The Fed increasing it's balance sheet by buying Federal debt instruments is a ticking time bomb that, when it explodes, will release a wave of inflation like we haven't seen since since the '70s. If folks think the real estate market is slow when we have mortgage rates around 4%, imagine how it will look if they get back up to 17-18% like they were in 1980!

Geez you bring up some real cheerful stuff!;)

Part (only part) of the problem is we live a lot longer. Retiring at 60-65 means that something around 45-50% of men will likely live another 25 or so years. Women five or so more than that on average. That's a long time to survive on a fix or modestly growing savings/income base. Not going to get into too much detail here (A. it'll be real boring, B. this is the internet and not willing to release TMI), but the bride and I have living mothrs. Mine 94, hers 88. Mine is eating up whatever money she has as well as a little help from her kids to keep up with assisted living costs. Her house in So. Cal. has almost halved in market value in the last 5 years, which doesn't mean much to her, but if we kids were silly enough to have counted on that to help in our future net worth we'd be sucking wind. (there was an article in today's WSJ about this phenomena also). My MIL is getting pretty deep into Alzhimer's and we have her in a full time care unit. She and her husband were very conscientious savers/investors, so again, there's funding for now to cover her costs. Last week we started hospice care for her, but the end is not as iminent at that could make it sound. She'll likely not run out of money enough to cover the care, but again, there won't be much left. We're fortunate because in either case it isn't going to hurt any of we children of theirs, but the only reason I tell the tale is that it's a lesson that even rigorous saver/investors who lived through the most robust economy of all time barely accumulated enough to cover their extended life situations. And we're not typical of most Baby Boomers................the large majority of whom haven't been as responsible with their money.

Doom and gloom? Not exactly, what it probably means is we're looking at a more austere future. The big lie that we can tax the "rich" to pay for it will not pan out, even the rich don't have enough to carry all the potential hangers on..........even if they'd let the politicians steal it, which they'll fight tooth and tong. Perhaps that's why the government employees got a wake-up call last week in Wisconsin. Perhaps we, and the generations behind us, are starting to wake up to the unaffordability of a bloated government. Maybe we'll wake up to the reality that if we freed up the private sector we could earn our way to restoring some prosperity as we did in the late '80s and into the '90s. Those are big maybes, but to me it's a fight worth waging.

I think it's going to take a whole lot more then getting rid of Obama in November to turn things around!!!! Unless people start taking action to get the government out of all the non-governmental things they're involved in, doubt the government will be willing to give up all the power and control they have stolen from the private sector over the last two or three decades!!!! Look what it takes for a business just to keep their operations up to "government standards"!!!! The government payroll just keeps growing, constantly!!!!! All these employees have to do something to justify their existence, so hassling businesses of all and every kind with new rules and compliance issues is their course of action! Companies in the private sector are fighting an uphill battle to just survive these days, let alone expand and hire new employees.... Guess I don't understand how going from Obama to Etch-a-Sketch will address these issues.... Is the government, the way it operates today, going to take action to make itself smaller????

Another thought, with all the pressing issues facing the country which could well lead to our demise are there any estimates on what voter turnout will be in November????

Small companies don't stand much of a chance.There is just to much B/S to try and stay in business.My license came up for renwel in 2011. ( I started the bus. in 94).They added that I had to go to school for lead and asbestos removal to get a renewel,there isn't much of either in remodeling homes built after 91 and realy not much in new construction. I just decided that rather than contend with more of the crap (taxs and insurances) it was easier to just close. I still do small jobs for people that I have worked for before, but nothing that requires a crew.

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.... Guess I don't understand how going from Obama to Etch-a-Sketch will address these issues.... Is the government, the way it operates today, going to take action to make itself smaller????

Another thought, with all the pressing issues facing the country which could well lead to our demise are there any estimates on what voter turnout will be in November????

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I thought you were one of those who advocated throwing the incumbant out each election cycle until they get the point?

As for turnout, that's a tough one. Will the enthusiasm level be as high? Will the racists on both sides, (those who vote FOR based on color are just as racist as those who vote against for the same reason) be motivated? Will the squishes be demoralized or hopeful that another change will increase their hope? Too many disperate motives to draw a clear view this early.

Besides, the Congressional elections may be our best hope no matter which of the two it is. One to be blocked at every turn because he's too committed to his collectivist ideology, the other because he'll go with the flow. (Although, the Supreme Court Justices are too big a factor to risk a bad choice.)

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Small companies don't stand much of a chance.There is just to much B/S to try and stay in business.My license came up for renwel in 2011. ( I started the bus. in 94).They added that I had to go to school for lead and asbestos removal to get a renewel,there isn't much of either in remodeling homes built after 91 and realy not much in new construction. I just decided that rather than contend with more of the crap (taxs and insurances) it was easier to just close. I still do small jobs for people that I have worked for before, but nothing that requires a crew.

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You Charlie are representative of what could be referred to as the "New Silent Majority".............within the ranks of the business entrepreneurs anyway. Too many of our citizens have no idea how regular jobs are REALLY created.

I am for throwing them all out!!! Didn't vote for Obama the first time, sure as heck won't this time!!!! My point is, what can the other guy do besides say all the things people want to hear??? The President is just the first guy to get blamed... The bureaucrats and the politicians will continue to do as they please regardless of who the "blame guy" is.... Seems to me that the government no longer works for the people but the people seem to work for the government instead!!!!

Voter turnout will be low, mainly because of apathy IMO. All the lofty goals and high ideals of all the candidates are forgotten as soon as the last voting precinct closes on Nov. 2 and we'll be back to business as usual. The government has become an institution that is accountable to no one. I predict voter turnout to be 40%, another sad state of affairs for a country on the brink of economic chaos when 60% of the people won't even bother to exercise one of their few remaining rights!!!!

I guess Ron Paul is my man for 2012. He has some radical ideas, few of which he could ever get implemented but nevertheless it would be good to again see a politician who will stand up for what he believes in regardless of what the most recent poll shows to be the most popular idea!!!

Expenditures have to be cut, no matter who or who much you tax there's not enough money to pay our bills. When private businesses have more expenses then revenue they take drastic and deep cuts, usually an XX% cut that EVERY department takes. How about challenging the government to apply a 10% cut to EVERYTHING it does, all the departments across the board including wages. Then, announce the lay-off list and send 10% of all the employees of the federal government home! Bring all our troops home from the countries that don't want us there and have 1/2 of them start picking up everyone without a green card and deporting them while the other 1/2 guard our borders and prevent illegal entry into this country. Find a candidate or a party with those items in their platform and maybe, just maybe, people will wake up to the fact that the government isn't going to solve our problems and it's up to the people to put candidates into office who will pass the legislation essential to this country's survival.

Business as usual, regardless of who the President is, isn't going to solve this debacle!!!!

It dose "seem" that Companys are laying off cutting back CLOSING Not our government BAU they are the ones that truly need to cut back and QUIT expanding. Wisc. had a great turn out for there most recent election and I think it went the right way. Now if the rest of the country gets off there dead rears and votes we could be a bunch better off. If nothing elseit maybe different.

I was going to type out my views but I have a lot on my plate today & Dave pretty much summed it up, so I'll just save myself some time & say 2X to Dave's post.
back to work now.

Once again I would like to thank all (mostly) of this threads participants for keeping things civil. 450 posts later and we have yet to actually lose any CHR members because of this thread.

Staff and management at CHR highly appreciates this.



Bill S.

It helps to be grown up, and dealing with people who realy care. Thanks Bill. Maybe we should run Congress :eek::LOL::LOL::LOL:

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Once again I would like to thank all (mostly) of this threads participants for keeping things civil. 450 posts later and we have yet to actually lose any CHR members because of this thread.

Staff and management at CHR highly appreciates this.



Bill S.

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As I recall we've only had one post that was somewhat vitriolic. Not sure if it was a stealth attempt to get the thread closed down or not, but I believe you dealt with it appropriately. Thanks.

The current economic situation takes yrs to come to pass.But we seem to blame the current President.I am neutral in terms of parties,but I am just saying.........

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The current economic situation takes yrs to come to pass.But we seem to blame the current President.I am neutral in terms of parties,but I am just saying.........

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Hmmm - We as a people seem to have done that very thing to every president I can remember. However, the current guy in the White House seems to have mastered blaming his predecessor for everything from hang-nails to hemorrhoids.

I'm just sayin'.......

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As I recall we've only had one post that was somewhat vitriolic. Not sure if it was a stealth attempt to get the thread closed down or not, but I believe you dealt with it appropriately. Thanks.

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I can guarantee you that I had no hidden agenda or made any attempt at stopping this thread. I did however hurt someone who I consider a friend. I guess what was written was interpreted in a way that I hadn't intended. As simple as that! While I read this thread always, I have since shied away from participation as my "enthusiasm" got me in trouble last time..

Besides, Dave S. seems to be aligned with my thoughts!

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Hmmm - We as a people seem to have done that very thing to every president I can remember. However, the current guy in the White House seems to have mastered blaming his predecessor for everything from hang-nails to hemorrhoids.

I'm just sayin'.......

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Hey Glen,I didn't mean to say just blaming someone else,but also taking credit for good outcomes as well.That the way our economy works so slowly any changes + or - takes yrs.