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Originally Posted by glennsexton

The plane that is used to carry the president, which is typically a Boeing 747, costs the Air Force $179,750 per hour to operate, according to a new Congressional Research Service report. This is just the cost of Air Force One (designated as such only when the POTUS is on board).

Typically, there are other costs associated with the planes that are required for the entourage of a president. Air National Guard planes also fly approach and take-off sorties. It costs (per aircraft) $20,516 per hour to fly the F-15 and $9,366 to fly the F-16, according to data published by Defense Department comptroller’s office.

So yuppers – probably cost the taxpayers $250K each way for Mr. Obama to come to Chicago to cast his vote. It’s a bit more than a first class stamp. Probably the annual salary with benefits of five well qualified K12 teachers.

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Also, Glenn, the White House press "corpse" goes with him. I made my company's air travel arrangements for them in the late sixties and early seventies. At that time the White House had its own travel office staffed by very capable professionals. I don't know how corpse transportation is run now. BUT ....... when the poorest excuse for a man to ever hold the presidency took office, his wife (her name now escapes me) accused the travel office of financial misdeeds of various kinds. The staff was dismissed. White House travel was turned over to a travel agency that was, quite coincidentally, owned by a friend of hers.

The impeached aforementioned "poorest excuse" is now a venerated Elder Statesman and his wife is now Secretary of state.

Yeah.

Jim

Don't forget that on this trip they had several stops---each stop would of had an advance party of secret service, plus C5As hauling in choppers and armored limos----and its probably a little over 2 hours Chicago to Andrews AFB so you will be well over one/half million dollars just for AF ONE-------

If they could (or were even interested) in eliminating all the fraud, waste, and abuse in the Federal Government and apply that money to the deficit, betcha we'd see that big number go down in a hurry!!! Seeing as how the one's who benefit most from the fraud, waste, and abuse would be the one's to end it I guess we don't have to wait for that to ever happen!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by jerry clayton

Don't forget that on this trip they had several stops---each stop would of had an advance party of secret service, plus C5As hauling in choppers and armored limos----and its probably a little over 2 hours Chicago to Andrews AFB so you will be well over one/half million dollars just for AF ONE-------

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You also forgot the ambulance, the helicopters, the black Suburbans along with the multitude of secret service personnel plus the spare Air Force 1 that isn't too far away, either a 747 or a smaller airplane. Obumbler has been here three times in the past couple of years - and that motorcade BS will tie up an entire city plus screw up our pretty small Albany International(?) Airport for hours - talk about lost time/costs(millions of $$) for many thousands of others caught up in the mess

As a Kiwi, all of this has no personal impact on me.
But I seem to remember...

Not long ago some the auto industry were asking your government to bail them out of financial trouble.
Some of the auto executives had the temerity to turn up in their corporate jets; and were told to sell those off now, and to live within their means before coming cap-in-hand pleading for assistance.

Your country's going broke...running huge budget deficits.

Wouldn't it seem like a good idea for the politicians to practice what they preach?

And sell those 'corporate jets'?

Just wondering...
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Originally Posted by johnboy

As a Kiwi, all of this has no personal impact on me.
But I seem to remember...

Not long ago some the auto industry were asking your government to bail them out of financial trouble.
Some of the auto executives had the temerity to turn up in their corporate jets; and were told to sell those off now, and to live within their means before coming cap-in-hand pleading for assistance.

Your country's going broke...running huge budget deficits.

Wouldn't it seem like a good idea for the politicians to practice what they preach?

And sell those 'corporate jets'? Just wondering....

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AHHhhhhh.. imagine a world like that! Where the politician actually wanted to do what's right for his country moreso than his political party... what a world it would be!

But instead, "we" just continue to vote in the incumbent and now we've taught them that they have nothing to fear from the voters, they only have to deliver promises and then blame someone else for the countries ills.

Maybe someday it'll change? .....................soon?????............................:rolleyes:

ps, as far as no personal impact? If "we" fail, we're taking everything / everyone with us! Remember that world economy? Here it goes!!!

what nobody discusses is that not only does it cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$to fly POTUS around with all the advance workers and support equipment, but how bad they screw up traffic on the roadways and ALSO air traffic of other aircraft is blocked from the portions of the countery HE is being flown between-----THEY always go DIRECT which might save THEM hundreds of dollars in fuel costs, but it increases the area of the airspace that is shut down to airlines for a certain time before and after THEIR transit----it gets more comlicated in that in this voting sorie to Chicago, that west coast departures would be delayed so as not to be anywhere near the eastern airspace that AF1 might be in

ya monday night he brought that million dollar an hour flying circus out here to lax just to go on the jay leno show and pick up a few more checks from the Hollywood billionaires but la is used to that he has been here 17 times this year ...ted

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Originally Posted by ted dehaan

ya monday night he brought that million dollar an hour flying circus out here to lax just to go on the jay leno show and pick up a few more checks from the Hollywood billionaires but la is used to that he has been here 17 times this year ...ted

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That must make the 405 freeway even more of a 'joy' to sit on for hours.

Heck Ted, we only had the emporator visit three times - but of course, no billionaires here to throw money at him - only GE

It really gripes me, a card carrying and conservative tax payer, to have to help pay with my hard earned money in the form of taxes for his fun and games with the liberal weenie so called wheeler dealers. I recently read that it cost the tax payers over 1.1 BILLION dollars a year to pay for him and his family (which I think is low for 2012)

ya just think how much it cost to fly him uo to the hamptons to play the 100 plus rounds of golf if you do the math that's about once every 2 weeks oh well you can just add jealousy to my other descriptions like extreme right winger, raciest, sexiest, misogynist, homophobe, and I am sure there's more just can't think of them now but just turn msnbc, or cnn, you will hear them all LOL ...ted

I just noticed on a photo of him at a stopover Thursday that the plane in back of him was a B757-----does the white house or air force buy the fuel????????maybe the oil people lowered there credit rating-----the B757 had the best seat mile/gallon of all aircraft--------

Just because we don't like the current POTUS, doesn't mean he doesn't need protection. If he decided to forego Air Force one, and use a suburban, it would make it a bit easier for all the nut jobs out there to take him out. I think we'd all agree that if any POTUS was shot or killed it would not help our current economic situation, and as much as it PAINS ME to say this, anybody holding this office deserves protection for themselves and their families. I agree the costs are obsurd, but in order to do his job, he does need to travel.(maybe not so often, though! :) )

do you really think its worth half a million $$ for him to read a teleprompter in front od 200 college kids???????????????

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Originally Posted by jerry clayton

do you really think its worth half a million $$ for him to read a teleprompter in front od 200 college kids???????????????

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Not really Jerry, but we have to tolerate him for a few more months! My point was if we had someone we loved in office, we'd ignore these issues.

I think that any body within reason in these times would be trying to spend less money---HE can reach the TV networks with a "fire side chat" on every tv/radio station in the country from the White House with out exposing the President of the United States Of America to every body with the even the slightest wish of the termination of HIS period in office!!!!!!!!!!!

If we really had any tiny bit of ability to limit campaign finance---------------------no super pacs, etc