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Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe

Just make sure you do your part to help the "Turdle" fall off the post...........

And I am not sure this part will happen. I think "we" are the minority and will have to learn to deal with a new reality very soon.

I won't like it and am unsure on how to convince others that he is a mistake. Especially when the "other guy" is no prize either...

yeah and all we can do is drive by and say Huh? until November!

YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF RACISTS!!



Just my public service action to prepare you for that cudgel that will be wielded with ever more frequency in the coming weeks.

Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF RACISTS!!
Just my public service action to prepare you for that cudgel that will be wielded with ever more frequency in the coming weeks.

Were you addressing me Bob??

Originally Posted by 34_40

Were you addressing me Bob??

Mike,
Bob can speak for himself, but it was pretty obvious to me that he was simply pointing out that the closer we get to November we will be hearing that accusation more and more, any time that anyone speaks out against the current administration. Playing that card is simply another way of trying to divert attention from the realities of the shortcomings across the board, and when one diverts attention enough people tend to ignore facts and listen to the "big lie".

Originally Posted by 34_40

Were you addressing me Bob??

.....if the white hood fits............!

Roger summed it up well.

There's little to honestly brag about in useful accomplishment for this administration, so they have to fall back on attacking those they disagree with on a personal level. It's what they always do: corporations are evil, right wingers are stupid and racist, greedy and gun toting knuckle draggers. We hear it all the time, they have a set playbook of attacks they just keep using over, and over, and over again. Yawn.......

Well then. I guess I better stitch up a hood, grab my rifle and put some band-aids on the knuckles....

It won't change anything, I'll still be fearfull that another "wrong choice" will be made. I'm just not ready to drop from the grid, YET!

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who are dead set against Obama simply because he is black...Not right, just a fact. I guess I have more respect for those people who admit it then the one's who attempt to conceal their racism behind a bunch of bs!!!!

Race in this day and age should not have anything to do with this election, but like all the other lies that both candidates are spewing, they will make it one!!!! The facts are simple, we elected Obama to do a job that for whatever reason he's unable to get it done, therefore he needs to be replaced. Unfortunately, the only viable candidate running against him has his own long and distinguished list of shortcomings, too... There just doesn't seem to be such a thing as a good honest political discussion anymore!!! We're all supposed to be dead set for or against everyone and everything and never even consider listening to what the other side has to say, let alone agree that any of it has any validity. Guess I don't see where anything in this November's election is going to change any of this, and the only thing we have to look forward to is the continued downward spiral of the economy, and more total disregard to the Blue Collar Americans who built the country!!!!! I don't see where anything will change until we get rid of all the thieves and idiots in Congress that are ruining everything. But, I guess it's easier to just blame one person or another, and continue along the same old path of business as usual.......

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who are dead set against Obama simply because he is black...Not right, just a fact. I guess I have more respect for those people who admit it then the one's who attempt to conceal their racism behind a bunch of bs!!!!

Race in this day and age should not have anything to do with this election, but like all the other lies that both candidates are spewing, they will make it one!!!! The facts are simple, we elected Obama to do a job that for whatever reason he's unable to get it done, therefore he needs to be replaced. Unfortunately, the only viable candidate running against him has his own long and distinguished list of shortcomings, too... There just doesn't seem to be such a thing as a good honest political discussion anymore!!! We're all supposed to be dead set for or against everyone and everything and never even consider listening to what the other side has to say, let alone agree that any of it has any validity. Guess I don't see where anything in this November's election is going to change any of this, and the only thing we have to look forward to is the continued downward spiral of the economy, and more total disregard to the Blue Collar Americans who built the country!!!!! I don't see where anything will change until we get rid of all the thieves and idiots in Congress that are ruining everything. But, I guess it's easier to just blame one person or another, and continue along the same old path of business as usual.......

Don't drag us all in that group! I wasn't part of that. I didn't vote for him due to his socialist views and plans for this country. Like you said, I doubt either choice is better than the other. But I can't stand the thought of Obama in there again. With the drought situation, bad economy, and the political BS, it won't be good.

Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe

Don't drag us all in that group! I wasn't part of that. I didn't vote for him due to his socialist views and plans for this country. Like you said, I doubt either choice is better than the other. But I can't stand the thought of Obama in there again. With the drought situation, bad economy, and the political BS, it won't be good.

Actually, the term "we" refers to the entire voting process... Who anyone voted for individually is a matter for them to decide in the privacy of the voting booth. "We elected" is probably an archaic term going back to my 6th grade civics class when Mrs. Scott explained to us that in a democracy, when your candidate loses it is am important part of that democratic process to respect the candidate who was elected, whether he was your choice or not, and to work within the system to bring about legislation that is for the betterment of all, not just a segmented part of the people.

Today, it seems that if I didn't vote for him then it is my duty to abhor everything the "other guy" says or does!!!! Just another indicator of just how badly broken the system really is, I guess......

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Actually, the term "we" refers to the entire voting process... Who anyone voted for individually is a matter for them to decide in the privacy of the voting booth. "We elected" is probably an archaic term going back to my 6th grade civics class when Mrs. Scott explained to us that in a democracy, when your candidate loses it is am important part of that democratic process to respect the candidate who was elected, whether he was your choice or not, and to work within the system to bring about legislation that is for the betterment of all, not just a segmented part of the people.

Today, it seems that if I didn't vote for him then it is my duty to abhor everything the "other guy" says or does!!!! Just another indicator of just how badly broken the system really is, I guess......

No matter how you want to word it, or defend it, the system is broken and there is no real key way to fix it. From where I sit, it's not like the little guy can do anything to change it any how. All you can do is hope who ever is elected, doesn't make the mess that much worse. And really, the blame can't be laid solely on that one guy. Plenty of people help make the decisions good or bad.

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who are dead set against Obama simply because he is black...Not right, just a fact. ...

Okay cousin Dave.................I gotta call BS!

Though the term "lot" is nebulous, and subject to wide interpretation, in the context that it means a large proportion of the non-Obama supporters it's just plain WRONG, nothing resembling a fact. For those that at their core oppose an overly dominant/opressive government, he's no more despised than Nancy Pelosi (to site just one example of a universe of possibilities)........I'd dare say he's somewhat more popular than her. Based on polling he's no more despised than George Bush was/is, just a different subset of people. To call that race based is absurd, and, if the actual intentions of some who fling that crap be known, dishonest. Are there some (my contention relatively few) who have racially based hatred? Sure. But those of us, and I suggest that to varying degrees it's a comparatively large number, who know we're not basing our opposition on race, we're just fed up with the false charges. Some don't have the courage to vocally protest, others do. But "in the privacy of the voting booth" they'll vote accordingly...............i.e. against the false accusations. If I've learned to read you correctly over the years I suspect you'd be pissed to be lied about. Many have the same visceral feeling about being falsely accused of racism..............it's a lie about their personality, motivations, beliefs, and soul. I hope there's a significant backlash against such false charges................we'll be a better society for it if it happens.

It's funny to think, that once upon a time the Democrats and Republicans met at the end of the day at bars in D.C. for drinks. They may have battled during the day, but in the evening they were willing to put their differences aside and have a drink together. I forget who stated this, someone from the 70's. He was pointing out that in the past our elected leaders disagreed on policy, not Party. Somewhere along the line that got really messed up. Before if something needed doing compromise was possible. Today it's like a blood fued, neither party can even hint and compromise as it is shown as weekness and betrayal to their party. The system is truely broken.

Oh, boy ..... I hate this.

Racism exists in elections. I have lived through a lot of those things. My first presidential vote was cast in 1954 and I voted for General Eisenhower. There probably wasn't much of a racial element in that one, but I remember well when George Wallace ran as an Independent (1968) and pulled between 13 and 14 percent of the vote in the general election.

There definitely WAS a racial element in that one.

I do believe that racism is nowhere near as pervasive in this election as it was then.

If there is hostility toward the president it is more a result of his policies, his attitudes, and his lack of preparedness for the position he holds.

Racism? I don't see it.

Please walk softly, guys. This has been a great thread and I'd hate to see it jeopardized.

Jim

Originally Posted by Big Tracks

Oh, boy ..... I hate this.

If there is hostility toward the president it is more a result of his policies, his attitudes, and his lack of preparedness for the position he holds.

Racism? I don't see it.
Jim

I concur, Jim. Well said. I would like to think that we're of the same mind here and that we judge based on performance (or lack thereof..) Mr Obama was not qualified based on previous experiences and that has been demonstrated in his inability to lead. The buck stops with him - regardless of what he says - he is responsible for creating an atmosphere that can foster bi-partisan cooperation. He has failed miserably in this..

There's plenty of blame to be spread but at the end of the day, he is the president and he is responsible for leading this country. Remember that a leader without a following is just a guy taking a walk..

Regards All,
Glenn