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Originally Posted by Evolvo

Steve, every time you go to Home Depot and buy supplies for that beautiful home of yours you pay a sales tax. So when you buy a vehicle you also pay a sales tax. Why does that seem strange? So you pay a registration fee to license your vehicles every year. I think we all do that. Did it ever occur to you that those fees are used to build new roads, keep the existing roads, traffic lights, stop signs, power lines in good condition. To help the local and state government buy the equipment required to do this maintenance and pay their employees to operate it.
Every body hates to pay taxes, myself included. But you have to wake up and smell the coffee and realize that those taxes and the services and infrastructure they provide make it possible for you to get to that great job you worked so hard to get. You didn't build that, but you take advantage of it every day and those fees and taxes you pay help pay for it. JMO!



OCCUPY CHR

We in NYS have paid tolls for the NYS Thruway for yrs and yrs. It is a bad joke on all of us. That was supposed to be a temporary toll yrs ago. Talk about paying for services??. Or talk about being raked over the coals??.

Originally Posted by 1gary

We in NYS have paid tolls for the NYS Thruway for yrs and yrs. It is a bad joke on all of us. That was supposed to be a temporary toll yrs ago. Talk about paying for services??. Or talk about being raked over the coals??.

What's new? Miami, Rickenbacker Causeway toll road, a roadtoo Key Biscayne has been doing the same for 40 YEARS. This just demonstrates that when you are told that a TAX is temporary, that statement should be a huge RED flag to the thinking person.

I give Atlanta congrats on this one, a month back lefty wanted a new tax to fix roads, add busses and a trolley. The helpful tax was going to be temporary.Old lefty was right there giving all the excuses promoting the increase. Forthe children, environment, old people, illegals, gays, you name it a new tax was needed.
Cheer Atlanta we defeated it soundly, went down big time. The lesson in some states people are able to see through the TAX scam. I just hope we will remember it the for the next TAX scam, and it is coming bet money on it.

"Here's some TRUTH about the conservative BS machine you might want to watch."

Lefty would never have a BS machine, they are the poster children for that. Not going to waste my time viewing some joke show. I also do not want trickel down government.

Will tell ya I did see the debate. How about you, enjoy that show did ya ?

[QUOTE=pepi;476551]"I also do not want trickel down government.."

Here is a definition of trickle down government...

"Trickle-down economics" and "the trickle-down theory" are terms in United States politics to refer to the idea that tax breaks or other economic benefits provided by government to businesses and the wealthy will benefit poorer members of society by improving the economy as a whole.

And this is our President's position?

Like I mentioned before, we all need to pay attention to what we are voting for, not what we are voting against!

pepi , dont feed the trolls . this is a fairly good discussion . i think it is important to get as much information in here as possible but some needs to be ignored .

Originally Posted by shine

pepi , dont feed the trolls . this is a fairly good discussion . i think it is important to get as much information in here as possible but some needs to be ignored .

Shine-I respectfully disagree with you in that we still have a workable system and I don't think we do.

Originally Posted by 1gary

Shine-I respectfully disagree with you in that we still have a workable system and I don't think we do.

gary , i have no idea what your post means . it makes no sense what so ever .

Originally Posted by shine

gary , i have no idea what your post means . it makes no sense what so ever .

Shine I mean our government is functional. These show and tell elections are to appease the masses.A insult to my intelligence's.God help me if I where to be able to cap the salaries of these beltway Washington haft wits. Want to see someone who has been in business??. Well if this bankrupt government was my business the first thing I would do would to cut those salaries in haft and some serious lay-offs. Now we would be on a serious road to recovery. But no one talks about that,do they??. How can we overlook the billions spend on that??. Cost benefit??. Yepper that one is certainly in the toilet. Do we still have a system in government that works??. No,no,I don't think so.

And gary, I respectfully disagree with you! The system works the same as it has for more than 200 years! It's flexible and malleable. If any part of it is broken, it's that far to few people get involved and pay real attention to the issues.

What's wrong today I feel is that far to many are self serving. What's in it for me? That mentality will doom us.

.... Have you noticed how "they" are all arguing who gets what for millions? What happened to the american who had to much pride to get supported by the government?

Originally Posted by 34_40

And gary, I respectfully disagree with you! The system works the same as it has for more than 200 years! It's flexible and malleable. If any part of it is broken, it's that far to few people get involved and pay real attention to the issues.

What's wrong today I feel is that far to many are self serving. What's in it for me? That mentality will doom us.

.... Have you noticed how "they" are all arguing who gets what for millions? What happened to the american who had to much pride to get supported by the government?

My feelings exactly. When I was a kid, it was shameful to have to be on unemployment and you got off it as soon as possible. You washed windows or picked up pop bottles to turn them in for deposit or whatever you could do to make a little money. There was no welfare or food stamps in those days either.

the last place i need information from is the comedy show. i watch none of that junk. i dont listen to Limbaugh , i dont pay any attention to hollywood . i take all this very seriously because i still have to work for a living. i know first hand what has happened to small business. i would love to put a couple of people to work but it is just a losing situation with the tax code and looming health care reforms. contrary to the media the economy is not growing. it is flat and will stay flat until after the election. then it will move. which direction depends on who is in office .

Guys, I'll say it again, do not make your posts here personal or this thread (and your ability to post anything even remotely political) disappears forever.



Enough said, AGAIN!!!!!

That was unkind, and I'm quite certain shine does not feel that way.

Originally Posted by Evolvo

"Education is expensive. Keep that in mind, and you'll never be terribly upset when a project goes awry."

Maybe those on here that get their shorts in a knot over Solyndra should "keep that in mind"!



OCCUPY CHR

Okay, time to get my trouser legs wet again. Just as surfer did by ignoring the point about genuine revenue generation, as you have in the past, I will point out that you miss the real point about anger over Solyndra.

What angers most is the crony relationship between the President and one of his wealthy contributors (actually more than one, as G. Kaiser is the lead dog of a team of wealthy contributors). The apparent quid pro quo of "I give you a bundle of campaign cash, and you repay me with a "loan" for a pixie dust project." This relationship is doubly troubling because of the arranged reversal of the normal proctice of having the Federal Govt in first position as receiver/beneficiary when a bankruptcy is settled. Kaiser and crew were assured some return while we taxpayers were shafted. History is full of innovations coming to market and being successful, nearly all of which were funded by private investment wherein those who contributed had a vested interest in minimizing their loses. Those with good intentions (being generous) throwing other peoples money at a wish and a dream (or was it "HOPE"?) aren't that committed to success of the endeavor. I'd love to hear a defense of those practices.................but as experience has shown us, there won't be a reply.

It does bring up a question though. If this White House thought it necessary to criticize Rick Wagoner, former GM CEO, for flying around in a corporate jet while the company under his leadership/management foundered, and that that "failure" in management was cause to fire him (never mind the facistic nature of Government dictating to a privately held company how it chooses to run itself) shouldn't we consider it consistent with this President's beliefs/actions to fire the CEO of our country who is manageing poorly and spending a LOT of time flying around the country in the world's most expensive corporate jet?

Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

Okay, time to get my trouser legs wet again.

I don't know about you Bob, but when this happens to me it's involuntary.