well been having a lot of trouble with puter for a couple of weeks last sunday it went belly up so I messed around with it for a few days got it working sort of had my new nabor come over he is supposedly an it guy at work I think that's a joke so finally got so pissed I went down and bought a new one WOW this is an hp 23in touch screen no tower windows 8 what a change this win 8 is nothing like any thing I've had before don't know if any body has win 8 but this is all new its called a tablet format and this is touch screen is going to take some getting use to PS thank you guys for all the birthday wishes......ted