Speaker boxes suck on package tray !

Well today I got tired of looking at the Barrio Bros speaker boxes sitting in the back window on the package tray. They were originally on the back seat floor board but that sucked because of foot room when my Grandkids or Family went anywhere with me.
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You can see the area below the speaker boxes where the masonite went but I removed it and the vinyl covering just fell off. I imagine that it's gonna be hard to get anything to hold to the masonite with the heat that is accumulated there from the sun so I may just paint it.
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I have temporarily connected the speakers that they mounted but didn't use and they sound good enuff for my old ears so I"ll probably dump the boxes. Maybe find some decent grills and place where the square holes are cut for the oval speakers.
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Don't know weather to try and glue the vinyl back down and take a chance.
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Or just paint the masonite????
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The vinyl would look better I'd give it a try. You could always tint the rear window.

Use the proper glue and the vinyl will be fine. A couple of staples on the back would be extra insurance. Plus if you use speaker grills, they will be extra hold downs that are bolted down. Overall easy fix.


Do a little extra work and end up with something like this.

Before you glue the covering down pull the speakers and and mark on the back of the board where you'll need to cut the holes for the speakers. Once the holes are cut you can do the same thing with the covering. You can also find some cheap food service containers to place over the bottom of the speakers which will direct the sound into the cabin instead of half into the trunk.

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Originally Posted by NTFDAY

You can also find some cheap food service containers to place over the bottom of the speakers which will direct the sound into the cabin instead of half into the trunk.

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Thanks for the memory jogger, Ken, I knew that would help but it wasn't in my brain er uh plans but it is now. Plastic rather than metal you reckon?

Thanks Charlie and Scoot for that good info also. Think I'll locate me some DAP weldwood glue since that seems to be the recommended choice of the pros over "any" aerosol stuff. I managed to get the grills off of the speaker boxes, so I'll use those since I gotz'em already. 'preciate it dudes

You could make them out of thin aluminum sheet like is used in the siding industry for soffet and facia and pack them with foam. I used round Rubbermaid ones in the 75 Duster I had, but I used round speakers in the fold down trunk barrier, the top of the back seat folded down, and that's also where I mounted the 6 disc changer.

gotcha Ken, I love fabricating stuff like that - - - - helps break the boredom

I wish you were closer, I have about 3/4's of a roll of it in the garage. I'd make a box with tabs on the sides you could bend over and pop rivet.

I'm gonna dig out all those food containers that we don't have room for in the cabinets and I"ll bet there will be something there just right for the occasion.

Update: Roger had a good idea that I find a local shop to stick that vinyl to the masonite for me but when I found out what their turn around time was my "EMpatience" took over so I went by the store this morning and stocked up. I've worked with weldwood before building some furniture and knew to do this in a well ventilated place where there were no flames of any kind so I set up in the shop and cranked the fan to provide the exhaust and circulation I needed. It went fairly well except for one *$@&*$*$# piece of bird seed that I didn't see (oh well) All I have left to do are the grille mounting holes and get the edges glued under and tucked away neatly. Thanks for all the help Gents - - - - sound dampeners next, Ken.

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It looks great! Nice work!

Looking good Em and the sound should be better also.

Em,
The reason I suggested you carry your board & vinyl to an upholstery shop is that they keep a gun loaded with Weldwood's Contact Adhesive for Landau Tops or something equivalent from 3M or the like, which is the good stuff:

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This stuff is made to withstand the heat, and is NOT the same Contact Cement you buy at box stores. It's made to be sprayed with an old siphon gun to get a thin, even coat of glue on the two surfaces. The good thing is that your package tray will have the edges rolled under, and you can staple them which should keep it all tight, along with the grilles on top.

I like the idea of the "tupperware" containers on the back side to give the speakers something to push against, but I'd go by WallyWorld and splurge for a couple of new ones vs pulling something out of the cabinet which might have you wondering why your car smells like leftovers when it sits out in that hot Texas sunshine. Just my thoughts....

Thanks, well it's done and not perfect but 400% better than it was. Roger, the DAP that I bought ?says? that it has all those qualities so I guess we find out soon eh?

'preciate it, Y'all,
Em

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Staple it to back up your job and you should be fine. There is a difference between the glues and the Landau Top is far better. It is preferred to be sprayed like Roger noted but can be brushed on. I did my door panels with it, using a brush, and am pleased. If you have trouble with the Masonite board warping, replace it with plastic sign material (best) and foam or plastic shower wall material (stiffer) again with foam. As you said, your job looks 400% better, keep chugging on. All the little things add up.

The one on the right looks smaller!?!?!


JK JK... It's looking good there EM. Plus you get the satisfaction of knowing it's done right!

I think I'll change my original number from 400% to 600%. Decided to make my damper boxes out of wood to fit exactly as I want behind the speakers but I'm gonna have to wait for a Grandson to drop by and install. There ain't no way I'm climbing in the trunk and contorting my bod to do it. Besides that, I give great verbal instructions to my Grandsons. :LOL::LOL:
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Em, I don't have a problem with wood though if you're going that route you might consider fiber board. I would use quarter round or something similar on the edges and screw it together and 90º "L" brackets to mount it to the package tray. I assume you're thinking about plywood and IMHO fiber board is easier to work with.

Has a nice clean look now Em! Good Job!

thanks, Mike ! Ken, I'm thinking about using 1x6 pine, glued and screwed and then I have some aerosol rubberized undercoating that I was thinking about spraying on the inside????? finding the right sized food taker wasn't as easy as I thought hahahahahaha

my step-son told me that now that I don't have the boom box speakers on the package tray, I may get kicked outa the lowriders club LOL

That's cool, I was only offering suggestions. The fiber board I was thinking about is the same stuff they make peg board out of and it's what I used to mount 6x9's in the back corners on my Vette.

I think we call it particle board down here in Tejas but it might be different stuff?

What I know as particle board glued together wood chips that is used in sheathing and cheap construction. Fiber board is heavily compressed paper and paper products that I remember as a kid was used for signs. The kind with holes in it is used for peg board and about 3/16 or so thick. I used the solid variety for drawer bottoms in the bench I made for my garage.

Looks factory good! What an improvement... :D

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Originally Posted by NTFDAY

What I know as particle board glued together wood chips that is used in sheathing and cheap construction. Fiber board is heavily compressed paper and paper products that I remember as a kid was used for signs. The kind with holes in it is used for peg board and about 3/16 or so thick. I used the solid variety for drawer bottoms in the bench I made for my garage.

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Once again, I'm not sure what you're talking about but is it similar to Masonite and does it hold a screw like wood?

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Originally Posted by MelloYello

Once again, I'm not sure what you're talking about but is it similar to Masonite and does it hold a screw like wood?

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Exactly, I never can remember the proper name so I just call it fiber board.

There three general types of fiberboard, all of which are made from wood fibers. Particleboard is made from small wood chips or even sawdust (particles). It has limited strength, and doesn't hold fasteners very well. The heavier "stuff" that we make speaker boxes, consoles, etc., from is MDF or medium density fiberboard. Masonite is an example of high density fiberboard. At least that's what most of the folks I know describe the stuff.