Good Lord Robinson! Is there anything you CAN"T do? I'll say again, you belong in magazines! Really truly nice!
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Good Lord Robinson! Is there anything you CAN"T do? I'll say again, you belong in magazines! Really truly nice!
JR
That art work is fantastic!:toocool: :toocool:
Looks like you're just as good at art as you are at fabrication!
Mike
You are a talented individual Mr. Robinson.
Great art!!!! geez, and I got to use a compass and ruler to draw stick people,,,,,,
Ok.. this really gets my goat.
You are obviously one of those people whom can drop their parts in molten lead and pull them out gold plated.
Arright.. well vengence for spiteful people comes in various packages. here is mine: I curse you with another project!
assuming you accept the assignment...
I've had a thought of a T shirt design. Actually, a line of designs, sharing a common theme. The logo would be something akin to TIN GHOSTS or something similar. I think you have the talent to pull it out.
Real simply put: envision an old tin farm at night, with full moon. Add your favorite season of the year. Ok, so you got this old derilect piece of scrap iron, rusting away, bathed in silver moonlight. BUT... superimposed, shimmering in cobalt blue, a vision of what the bucket COULD be...
This is your mission, should you choose to accept it.
this tape will self-destruct in ten seconds.
That is a great drawing. The longer I look at it the more I appreciate it. So, you did this in your spare time? That can't be much time with everything you do.
Bill
Did you send it to your friend yet or are you going to make the frame as well............LOL
Nice art work
BradC
That is amazing! And even more is the fact thats the car I am building now!
I know this is my first post and I will do the introduction thing soon.....bbuuuuttttt.....I just had to say......
Mr. Robinson.....you have caused me two headaches for two days straight.....:whacked:
Yesterday I started on the thread at page 1 and I just finished reading every page of the thread.....:eek:
GREAT work and I may have found a site I am comfortable with....:)
I have been on Dune Buggy sites the last couple years because I got burned out on the Hot Rod thing, so I just needed a change. My wife was diagnosed with cancer not to long ago and we had to sell one of our buggies, our T-Bucket, motorhome and my muffler shop tube bender to pay the bills AFTER insurance.
Well all is good now and she spotted a Bantam some years ago at a car show and wanted us to build one, I happened to find a body in a horse pasture about six years ago but it is in bad shape, so I put it off and did a few other cars instead.... :rolleyes: I have since brought it into the shop and started on it and this thread gives me, not only ideas but inspiration to try and save it.
Great work....more then I can even comprehend......and enjoy the ride when it is done.
Darren
Also as a side note, since you like open wheeled Model A's....here is one the wife and I did about three years ago.......I won't jack your thread, but thought you might like this......:D
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ofMVC-004S.jpg
Aw, shucks, guys. It weren't nuthin'!..:o Seriously, thank you all for the compliments. I can't remember a time in my life when I didn't draw. I have a picture that my mother gave me of me lying on my stomach on the floor with paper and pencil, drawing; I was 3.:)
Brian - I can't draw people or animals either. I stick to cars and old buildings.
Stovens, Mike, Bill, & Dave - Thank you all.
Perley - There are lots of things I can't do. I never had any athletic ability and I don't play any musical instruments...
Firebird77 - Excellent idea, but it may be a while before I get to it...
36tudoor - I do seem to have a "full dance card" most of the time.:whacked:
BradC - I bought a frame for it. I could have made a frame (check out my coupe's dash in my gallery), but I didn't want to delay sending it any longer.:3dSMILE:
Scott - Give us some details on your build. Also, I'd like to see the full size version of your avatar!;)
Darren - Welcome back to hotrodding. I'm sorry for the headaches. I hope there is some info here you can use. Club Hotrod is a great site with lots of knowledgeable people. If you get stuck, just ask for advice and people here line up to help.:D
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Firebird77 - Excellent idea, but it may be a while before I get to it...[/QUOTE]
I probably can't reimburse you what the art is worth, but I'll send you a T in your size!
Darren - I missed your second post somehow...:whacked: Yes, I like fenderless cars. My first experiences with hotrods were fenderless; the roadster depicted above in my drawing and a semi-famous Model-A coupe in central Indiana called "Katzass".:D
Firebird77 - OK with one stipulation. You have to deliver my shirt in person at either Billetproof or the Turkey Run next year. Deal?:)
Well, here's a quick concept drawing of what my roadster should look like finished... When I'm trying to decide on a paint scheme I do a quick line drawing of the car in question. It is not as detailed as the finished drawing above and is devoid of any detail shading except for the tires. Next, I make some Xerox copies and get out the colored pencils. This is a lot better than just jumping in with hundreds of dollars of paint and then discovering I don't like the colors or the design layout. I did about a dozen different color schemes on my coupe before deciding on the Cream with Green.:3dSMILE: I only did four colorings on this roadster... This is how I have envisioned it from the beginning and is the first coloring I did. I did some others just to be sure, but I think this is it. The Cream is very light (lighter than the cream yellow on my coupe), almost white. The red is a 2006 - 07 GMC Envoy color, metallic red. The numbers will be done in gold leaf outlined in black.:cool: :D
First......your drawings are excellent and the roadster is too....:toocool:
Second.....you didn't miss the post, it was not put up yet. I was not aware of the forum rules about attaching pics, so it took a bit to get it posted.
I understand the moderators reasons completely though....all is good....:D
deliver in person.. that might be a tall order.
[quote - to-qwk] I was not aware of the forum rules about attaching pics, so it took a bit to get it posted.[quote]
Uh... there are rules?:eek: Hmmm... I must have not violated them yet, but I didn't know there were any rules...:o
[quote - Firebird77] deliver in person.. that might be a tall order. [quote]
Billetproof is in Ocala in March. Should be about a 6 1/2 hour drive from Hamilton. It's a cool run and there'll be a bunch of Club Hotrod folks there for you to meet...:D
Jim if there where no rules i may not be here today . It's the rules that keep me in tract . Also this car fever i have .
Just a quick update. I have spent the last couple of weekends sandblasting...YUK!:p Anyway, I have all the little pieces in primer now and the frame is blasted awaiting primer. I still need to sandblast the front axle and rear end and finish priming. Then it's paint time. The frame, wheels, drive shaft, both axles, and the springs will all be red. The radius rods, bumpers, nerf bars, and shock absorbers will be sparkle silver...:D
Think that's everybody's least favorite part of a build!!!! Oh well, it's always worth it when you're done
OH MAN! That's what I got to look forward to???? Maybe I'll skip that step and have a 'rusty rat'. haahaaaaa. Great build again Jim. Perley
With the sandblasting behind me it is time to move on. I spent last Monday evening getting the frame, rear end, and front axle in primer. The rest of the week was spent in preparation for Thanksgiving, etc. and Friday I went to The Turkey Run swap meet.:rolleyes:
Finally, Saturday I painted everything. I spent most of the day making preparations; finally pulled the trigger on the spray gun about 2:30 PM. I painted the bumpers, side nerf bars, and radius rods silver (Chrysler mag wheel color), the frame and everything else got a liberal coating of red ('06 GMC Envoy metallic color). I shot the last of the clear coat at about 5:45 PM. By 6:20 I was on I-95 making a "banzai run" back to Daytona.:HMMM::D
I left everything where it was overnight and shot some pics Sunday morning. I tried to upload a couple, but something is wrong with the site this morning. I'll try again later...:o
Jim I amazed at this hobby and how things come together . I am used to taking something apart and rebuilding . This thread and many others I am sure will get some people into I can do that mode . I know I have learned alot of fab technics over the 2 years I have been here . Many and I say many Thanks to you and the other teachers here for your inspiration and knowledge you all have shared . I didn't even have to buy a book . :)
J Robinson;
I tried to sand blast before with no luck, the compressor I had at the time was to small. Now I have a industrial type compressor with a 80 gal. tank. Is there a good cheap sand blasting kit that would do a good job. I need to do a frame and body,
I've heard that you can warp the sheet metal on the body. What would you recommend
to help minumize damage. And should I use sand, beads, glass or what, thanks Kurt
Bobby - Thanks for the kind words. If I can pass along some of what I have learned to a few others before I depart this world, then my sojourn here will have been worthwhile. I enjoy doing this stuff and I want others to find the joy that comes from being creative.:cool::3dSMILE:
Vara4 - I bought my little siphon-feed sandblaster for $15 at a local flea market! I have another one that is pressure-fed, but it's a pain in the ass to use. It goes good for a while, then clogs. When that happens, I have to take it apart to clear it. My little cheapie just keeps going and going like the Energizer bunny. It doesn't remove material as fast as the big one, but I actually progress faster because it works steadily... It came with 4 tips. I used those up, made 4 more on a lathe at school and used up 3 of those!:eek:
Do not blast the body!! I'm no expert at blasting, but having done bodywork for most of my life I can tell you that, unless you really know what you're doing, sandblasting can ruin sheet metal. Maybe someone else can give you advice on blasting... There are chemical products that you can use to neutralize rust on sheet metal like One Step and Ospho.;)
Here are the pics I tried to upload this morning and, no, my wife's PT Cruiser was not sitting there when I was spraying...:D
Looking good Jim! Cant wait to see it come together.
Same advice...................don't do it!!!!!!! I've seen guys with walnut shells and plastic media screw up a body, and those are supposed to be better. It still comes down to experience/technique, and even then I'd be very leary of anyone who claims to be able to do it without seeing results first hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Robinson
Thanks Guys thats what I had heard before from other people.
Would it be alright to sand blast the engine compartment?
Some of the firewall needs to be replaced anyway, and the
shock towers are gonna be cut out with new sheet metal
put over the holes. Thanks for your input. Kurt
Jim,
Looks good !!!
Are those concrete blocks just a "collection" you have going on ?? :LOL:
The frame and suspension look great, Jim!!!! Being a full fledged redaholic, I sure do admire your color selection!!!!!
Jim, I'd have to take the opposite opinion on body blasting. I've got a guy who's done three bodies for me and all came out good. That said, I did look at others he had done for other people before he did any for me. The main drawback is that the sand gets into every nook and cranny and is a pain to get it all out. If you decide to do it, find someone who has done others you can look at first. Like Bob said, it all comes down to technique and experience.
Thanks Falconvan;
I am mainly concerned with area’s I ‘ll have a hard time getting too.
Like door jams, doors inside, dash, inside fire wall, inside roof and back wall, under body what’s left,
which will not be much.
New skin are going on lower fenders in the rear of car and one piece fiberglass
front end going on. So there won’t be much sanding on the outside anyway.
Kurt
I don't see how you could hurt much by blasting the firewall and inner fenders.
Other than having sand EVERYWHERE. Be prepared to use a lot of compressed air to clean it up.
Falconvan - I agree that it comes down to technique and experience and one other thing; good equipment.:HMMM: I doubt that Vara4 would get the results he wants with a $15 flea market blaster like mine. Also, it takes a lot of practice (that's where experience come in) to successfully blast sheet metal without warping it. I have been doing body work off & on for 46 years and I have seen a lot of body panels ruined by overzealous sandblasters. Your advice to him is good: find somebody who has the experience and has done others he can look at. Otherwise, I stand by my original opinion, don't do it.;)
Vara4 - Firebird77clone is correct; door jambs, floor pans, firewall, and other structural parts that are heavier gauge steel are usually not a problem. It is the outer body panels that are subject to warping and expanding. Blasting the inside of your roof is the same as blasting the outside; it will end up with so many waves you can go surfing on it.:rolleyes: If the inside of the roof is going to show, I would brush on a coat of Ospho, let it sit at least 48 hours, and finish it (prime, scuff sand, paint, etc.). If it's going to be hidden by a headliner, I would brush on the Ospho, let it sit 48 hours, and spray on a coat of rubberized undercoating.:D
Thanks Firebird & Robinson;
Ya it's gonna have a headliner in it. The gage metal on the sides is real thick I don't remeber the exact gage now, but when I went to buy some sheet metal to fix a hole,
the guy thought I measured it wrong and came out to check it.
He couldn't belive it was that thick, he found out that I was right.
I'm not sure how thick the gage is on the roof though, so way take the chance.
I'll do the ospho like you suggested then sand down the out side.
The metal on this 1965 Ranchero is a little thicker then the metal on my
07' Mustang GT. Kurt
[QUOTE=J. Robinson;334175]Falconvan - I agree that it comes down to technique and experience and one other thing; good equipment.:HMMM: I doubt that Vara4 would get the results he wants with a $15 flea market blaster like mine. Also, it takes a lot of practice (that's where experience come in) to successfully blast sheet metal without warping it. I have been doing body work off & on for 46 years and I have seen a lot of body panels ruined by overzealous sandblasters. Your advice to him is good: find somebody who has the experience and has done others he can look at. Otherwise, I stand by my original opinion, don't do it.;)
Agreed; it's definately not a "do it yourself" project. Some things there are just no inexpensive way around if you want good results.
wouldn't soda blasting be a good alternative to sand blasting for sheet metal? it doesn't seem like baking soda does much damage
I don't think you can soda blast with a $15 siphon feed sandblaster. Besides, I have no idea where to get that much baking soda. I think maybe all this blasting business needs its own thread...:rolleyes:
OK, back to the matter at hand!!:HMMM: I have my freshly painted frame back on wheels in case anyone wants to see it. Everything is red except the radius rods and front springs. If you might remember way back when I was fabricating the radius rods, I put a nut inside the center tubes opposite where the rod ends screw in. Now you can see what that little detail was for; I used a short stud and a chrome acorn nut to cap each of those tubes. I think it makes a nice little finish detail rather than just welding a flat piece or a ball bearing over the open end. So far, so good...:D:D
WOW J. R. Super job. Even better than I had imagined. Great job on a great project. Getting anxious yet?????????? Perley
J. Robinson; That looks great, nice job. Kurt
those two colors just go great together. Keep on posting.