What gets you in trouble in Virginia

They apparently don't have much else to do.

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It shall be unlawful for any person to operate any motor vehicle on the highways of the Commonwealth if such vehicle is equipped with any device that supplies the vehicle's engine with nitrous oxide, unless the device has been disabled such that the supply of nitrous oxide is disconnected and not readily accessible to the source of delivery.

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Any motor vehicle found to be equipped with any device, appliance, equipment, or instrument, as mentioned in § 46.2-1086, or equipped for the installation or attachment of any "smoke screen" or gas or flame emitting device, appliance, equipment, or instrument, as so mentioned, shall be forfeited to the Commonwealth, subject to the rights of an innocent owner and lien holders.

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It shall be unlawful for the operator of any motor vehicle on a public highway to display or permit the display within the vehicle of any image, motion picture, or video display that is obscene as defined in § 18.2-372 if such image, motion picture, or video display can be seen by persons outside the vehicle.

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No motor vehicle shall be operated on a public highway in the Commonwealth if any hood scoop installed thereon exceeds any of the following dimensions:
1. For any hood scoop installed on any motor vehicle manufactured for the 1990 or earlier model year: thirty-eight inches wide at its widest point, two and one-quarter inches high at its highest point measured from the junction of the dashboard and the windshield, and fifty-two and one-quarter inches long at its longest point.
2. For any hood scoop installed on any motor vehicle manufactured for the 1991 or subsequent model year: thirty-eight inches wide at its widest point, one and one-eighth inches high at its highest point measured from the junction of the dashboard and the windshield, and fifty and one-half inches long at its longest point.

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In addition, you must have a door handle on the outside of the car - nevermind that many of the newer cars automatically lock the doors when you start to move.

Jack, are those new regs that just went in, or have they been in effect for a while?

We are starting to see all the States tighten up, from titles to equipment, and I honestly think our days are numbered. Might not be next year, or the year after, but sooner or later we are going to be legislated out of existence. :( :(

Don

I understand common sense and safety concerns, but hood scoops and Nos being banned? well, that's a state I just crossed off my list for retirement.

That sounds to me like the factory scoop on a brand new Suburu WRX would be illegal as it is certainly more than 1 1/8 inches high!

Pat

Don,

Those are the old inspection rules. My replica won't be subject to most safety rules. However the NOS and flamethrower laws probably apply - not that I need or want either.

Fortunately, the new Replica Vehicle rules that become effective next week are strongly in our favor. The only safety/emission rules that apply are those in effect for the original year that the car is a replica of. Virginia has made it better this round - not worse. The original thread is here:

http://www.clubhotrod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29839

I mailed my paperwork to Richmond today to get a VIN (I had a Gibbon MSO). When I get that back, I will apply for a replica title - then see what they say about inspection. I'll bet the inspection stations won't have a clue. I know that the DMV doesn't have their forms updated for VINs, Titles and Registrations for Replicas. A helpful lady at the DMV home office told me how to deal with it, though.

I"m going to update the old thread so the other Virginians will know what's going on.

Hmmmm, that first hood scoop law would make the '65 Dodge A990 "illegal". Virginia must be for louvers.;)

I have NO idea why they would go to that trouble on hood scoops. It's not mentioned in the inspection laws, so I doubt if 10% of the cops in the state (I refuse to call it a commonwealth) even know it exists. Those kind of laws usually pop up because some legislator sees something he doesn't like and tacks it on to some bill where it doesn't belong.

Oh . . . and Ouch! on the louvers. That'll zoom over a few heads.

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Originally Posted by DennyW

You can always tell when you enter Illinois, the tires sounds like when you ride a train, clickity clak, and you get the up and down bounce along with that. It sure wakes you up if returning from a trip. :LOL: :LOL: Yep, we are in Illinois now. Don't even have to look at the sign. :LOL:

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Must be a lot of fun in a straight axle car. Faith ought to try that with her bias plys. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

I was pulled specifically because of the hood scoop I had on my 81 Mirada (Hemi style). He (State Trooper), measured said was marginal, but let me go. It was never questioned when I took it for the annual inspection.

Jack

Jack,

It's a good thing they're enforcing the IMPORTANT laws, huh?

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Originally Posted by Henry Rifle

...... That'll zoom over a few heads.

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Well Jack, you seem to get most of those.............:HMMM:

I suspect the scoop laws came about from the boy racer types wanting prostock style hoods tower in front of the windshield. 2 1/4" is kinda tight though.

Then there are the little old blue-haired ladies who can't see even with NO hood scoop, but that's o.k. I guess. :HMMM:

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Originally Posted by Henry Rifle

Jack,

It's a good thing they're enforcing the IMPORTANT laws, huh?

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Yeah, I guess they have all the drunks, drug dealers, illegal immigrants locked up, so now they can concerate all there efforts on illegal hood scoops :LOL:

Jack

It only gets worse. This was posted on the MSN.com this morning. Virginia is the latest but there are at least 6 other states practicing the same policies.

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Traffic patrols have long been known as roving tax collectors. But in Virginia, they really are collecting taxes.

Starting July 1, an array of traffic offenses, from expired licenses to speeding, come with a "civil remedial fee" attached. That means a motorist convicted of reckless driving (75 mph in a 55 zone would qualify) faces not only a fine of up to $2,500 and a year in jail, but a non-negotiable $350-a-year tax for three years. The law forbids judges from waiving or reducing the fee.

Many fees dwarf the fines. A driver who disobeys an officer's order to pull into a weigh station would be fined $35 and required to pay a $61 court processing fee. But the civil remedial fee would be $900 over three years.

Drunken driving? A fee of $1,000 a year for three years, plus fines and court costs. No insurance? That's $300 a year for three years, plus fines.

It doesn't stop there. Anyone unlucky enough to have 8 points or more on his license (reckless driving is good for 6 by itself) would pay an additional $100, plus $75 for any points over 8, up to $700 a year

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Seems surreal that Virginia produced such noted Revolutionary War luminaries as;
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Patrick Henry
George Mason
Benjamin Harrison

Times sure have changed!

Ahh the good ole days when a man did things to better himself and others,now......... we do it for profit....................and we can see what that has brought.......no new Washingtons or Franklins.
Washington is now paid off by the lobbiests and Franklin has sold out to the big profiteers.:rolleyes:

The reason that Virginia added fees instead of raising the ticket cost was because ticket revenue goes to public schools whereas the fees would go to the highway fund. Virgina expects to get over $200 million a year in fees. (must be a lot of law breakers in Virginia :LOL: :LOL: )

The other states that already have rules similar to Virginia are: Michigan, New Jersey, New York, and Texas. The most expensive of those 4 is Texas. All of them add multi-year penalties for expired insurance and licenses.

PA doesn't yet have multi-year fines or penalties but they got fees. For a $25 violation they tack on an additional $68 in fees for everything from the cost of writing the ticket to padding a fund for emergency medical. :eek:

And we just keep going along for the ride.........................:mad: :mad: :mad:


It scares the h*** out of me that there are laws like this being passed and we have no contol over any of it. :mad: :mad: :mad:


Don

Our good ole Democratic Governor is now saying he did not know that language was in the bill, and if he had, he would not have signed**) . Yeah, I believe that :whacked: .

Jack

Here's the deal. Our Virginia legislators need money for roads, but are very anti-tax. In order to avoid raising the taxes on everyone who uses the highways (the gas tax), they instituted these fees. However, these fees, along with increased license fees, increased vehicle fees, increased fees for selling a house, ad nauseum, ONLY APPLY TO VIRGINIANS. Yep . . . any non-resident driving through ol' Virginny is exempt from the civil fees.

I guess they think we're too stupid to understand that a fee by any other name is still a tax.

Bottom line, instead of hitting all those who use the roads, locals are footing the whole bill. That whole concept is so freakin' stupid it makes my hair hurt. When it comes time to cast the next ballot, any legislator who voted for this mess is not getting an "X" for me.

just run it with the hood off.

no wait, that's illegal too.

In Virginia, I don't think so - at least for hot rods.

Henry,
Just wanted you to know that the northerners in the state feel the same way. This is my first post on this forum, I've been a lurker for a while, but this subject is enough to drag me out of the shadows. We would have plenty of money if the politicians would not feel so free to pocket the money for themselves, give sweetheart contracts to their buddies and have to support those not paying into the system. Imagine if the penalty for there lies and theft were in proportion to the traffic offense fines? Every one of the lying thieves would be drawn and quartered. Hmmm........selling tickets would be a great way to raise the coffers they depleted in a voluntary way. Yeah, I'll be looking at how these jackasses voted when I cast my ballot!
Oh, well! Have a nice day.
Matt

Don't hold back Matt, tell us what you really think..:LOL: !!
Welcome to here. Hope you will chine in often, and I agree with your comments, but, those of us who pay the bills for the COMMONwealth, don't have a lotta pull. Money talks.

Jack

whats up with the commonwealth bit?? are there really only 49 states in the union?

Nope there are only 46 states. :LOL: Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia all call themselves commonwealths. It has no constitutional impact. They just like to be different.

Let's see... Common Wealth :HMMM: sounds kinda commie pinko to me! :LOL:

Pat