Thread: One way to build a '32 sedan
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10-08-2010 02:55 PM #1
REGs - Thanks, got a long way to go!
Got the other side done today. Now I just have to finish all the bracing. After looking at it installed I think it would of looked better with a series of holes instead of the slots. I'm not going to do it over just make it black so maybe it will not be so obvious.
Ken
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10-16-2010 03:47 PM #2
Worked on the roof, trying to get that finished up. I stepped the front half and laid the rear on that so It comes out flush. Wheeled the corners for the transition from the front to the side, then hand formed the rest, it didn't take much to bring it in. Next I'm going to put a sealer between the bows and the roof panel and start welding it in and praying a lot.
Ken
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10-16-2010 05:53 PM #3
looks great, Ken!!!! Really do like the two piece idea for the roof... All that welding sure does make for a loooooonnnnngggggg day, though!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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10-16-2010 06:29 PM #4
Thanks Dave, that's for sure. I would of rather made it out of one piece but some times I have help and some times not. so I didn't want to take a chance on making it out of one piece. It's just to hard to handle. I could just imagine taking it off to form something and it fold in half, that would be disastrous
Ken
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10-16-2010 10:02 PM #5
Ken,
Thanks for this post, it has kept my juices flowing and gives me added inspiration for my own build.
Jack.www.clubhotrod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44081
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10-16-2010 10:14 PM #6
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10-16-2010 10:30 PM #7
That looks really good Ken, nice tight fit. Have you considered something like 3M panel adhesive between the ribs and top panel?
Don
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10-17-2010 09:42 AM #8
looks great!!
any idea on the crown of the panel ended up being?Custom Powder Coating & Media Blasting
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10-17-2010 11:22 AM #9
Nice fit Ken. The seams look great. Stuff like that takes so much time and skill, but rarely gets noticed unless the fitting is sloppy! It's funny what we take for granted." "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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10-17-2010 11:53 AM #10
Don -- Thanks, yes, that's exactly what I got. I just imagined after the interior is all in and I'm cruising down the road and at a certain speed the harmonics from the wind and the vibration of the motor creating this rubbing of the roof to the bows and driving me nuts.
STREETWERKZ - I have no idea. What I did was use the body line that is just above the windshield frame, in the photo above, and started with that. It turned out to be very close. Then I just sighted them as I worked my way back. I think it is really close.
Steve - Thanks, It tool awhile. What you don't see is all the different ways I tried and threw awayLil' John told me once, how to tell if someone is a good craftsman. He said, "look in their dumpster, if it's got lots of parts in it, the guy is a real craftsman. The hardest person to please should be yourself ". Now I'm nowhere near what John was, but I try to live by that.
Ken
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10-17-2010 03:36 PM #11
[QUOTE=Ken Thurm;402587]Don -- Thanks, yes, that's exactly what I got. I just imagined after the interior is all in and I'm cruising down the road and at a certain speed the harmonics from the wind and the vibration of the motor creating this rubbing of the roof to the bows and driving me nuts.
Ken, that 3M panel adhesive is great to work with. We used it between each floor rib in Dans subframe and the sheetmetal floor.
It will definitely dampen out any harmonics in your roof, that stuff is just like welding the two parts together.Oh, did you get the special gun for applying it yet?
Don
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10-17-2010 03:42 PM #12
Ken, we may have an update. Dan just came in and I showed him what you are doing, and he said he isn't 100% sure, but he has seen threads where someone did the 3M routine on the bows and when the top heated up from the sun it would distort the top because the metal couldn't expand or contract because it was glued down so tightly to the bows. He has heard it is better to put a thin strip of weather stripping on top of each bow to dampen out any harmonics.
Not 100% certain, but that is what he has seen others post.
Don
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10-17-2010 12:05 PM #13
Ken
Know what you mean by the dumpster ---When Nye Frank was doing the frontend axle fairing for our rear engine dragster he make a piece for one side and then made 4 more like it---well they didn't fit so he tossed them so then made 2 pieces and duplicated them--didn't fit so dumpster---by the time I stopped off to see how it was going he was pretty much half way thru his carton of tipperellos (menthol cigars) and I pointed out that the axle was offset he had done about every combo of trying to build it with same pattern right and left--he said at least the first piece was right and only had to make 3 more different ones----at least when they did the front wheel fairings they made a scaled down version off the land speed record car--made a buck, did 4 panels and then oil canned (popped curve backwards) them and welded edges together
Sure miss him and Quincy!!!
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10-17-2010 01:56 PM #14
Excellent job so far and I wish you well with the welding job in front of you,but heck it can't be any worse then welding up your stainless chassis.
Joke time..... hammer and file finish ????
Yes.I agree with the sealer to stop any drumming sounds but make sure it (the sealer) doesn't dry out or shrink as it could pull your roof panel. I am not familiar with the 3M product that you are going to use but hope it is a urethane sealer adhesive that can stand high temperatures.I maybe a little crazy but it stops me going insane.
Isaiah 48: 17,18.
Mark.
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10-17-2010 06:11 PM #15
If it sticks like it does on our race cars, it will distort. I read where Ron Covell will use one side (hairy side I think) of some velcro on his roof bows.
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