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It looks like it wont be long and you will have it running. there is plenty of room in the back for two car seats, are you going to put a/c in it?? I have always wanted to build something like this, but with a packard body,, good luck and keep posting.
Thanks. My wife and I really like the body styles from this era. We looked at Packards and Cadillacs. We stumbled on this car at a car show and the price was right. Plus it was not a restoreable vehicle which meant I could feel good about cutting it up and customizing. There are a number of subtle touches. the reat tailights have been deleted. the gas cap on the fender was deleted and a gas door was added on the side. the hood tilts forward and has been welded solid down the center, the sides are stationary. The interior will borrow the power, heated, leather seats from a 2004 Bravada.
It will eventually have A/C...not really optional in Phoenix.
Looks like you are making real progress. Congrats on the little ones.
Tom
I hate wiring!! ...and have some questions.
What is the best way to splice very small gauge wire? Are there extremely small butt connectors or do I just twist them real tight and put some electrical tape on them?
Anybody know enough about the wiring in a 92 Suburban to confirm that the purple wires that run to the rear are for the rear window defoster?
Anybody successfuly wire electric seats? I am really hoping I can make these 2004 Bravada seats work.
Thank you, Jay
I did the same thing on my son's 69 Chevy truck; we used an 88 GMC van wiring harness and computer along with the TBI. It came out great. I got a Chiltons and a Haynes manual for the van; between the two of them we figured all the wires out. Beautiful little girl, she sure looks wide awake!
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I don't like butt connectors and just twisting them together and covering with electrical tape makes for a poor connection. I would twist them together and solder them and cover with heat shrink that has been slipped onto one of the wires before they're twisted together.
Well this "heart transplant" should look very familiar. Any words of advice or lessons learned?Quote:
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Did the van have a tranny cooler and oil cooler or ABS? These are a few of the things I have questions about.
Can I just cap the inlet/outlet of where the oil cooler originally was?
How do I make the brake lights work? I already have abrake pressure switch plumbed in, but what wires will I hook up to it?
Considering what I started with, I am pleased with how the wiring has turned out. I am trying to reuse as much of the Suburban parts as possible. I cleaned up the wiring around the steering column and I got the computer mounted. Eventually I will clean up the floors and secure all the wiring but at least I know where it is going now. The picture might be more impressive if I had mounted the dash, but I thought it would be a good idea to use the gauge cluster to monitor the engine during the initial start up of the engine.
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Basically, I laid the whole harness out on the shop floor, unwrapped all the tape and went over it wire by wire from the book until i identified what each wire did. Take good notes. Anything we opted not to use I cut out to get rid of some of the mess. Power windows, door locks, cruise control and all the hvac wiring went. If your planning on using an aftermarket A/C down the road, it should come with it's own wiring and all you should need to do is run a hot wire to it. Anything you're not going to use, get rid of the wiring for it to avoid confusion later. When you've got it laid out with all the options you want to keep, do a trial fit for wire lenghths. Shorten or lenghthen where neccessary, then wire tire, tape, or use the ribbed platic conduit to neaten everything up. Also, i'd make yourself a wire diagram listing colors and what they do along with any reminder notes of what you changed for future reference. It'll help a lot in the future, and if you ever sell, it make the next guy happy to get it.Quote:
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It was a standard conversion van so it didn't have an external trans cooler. I used a 350 from a 92 Caprice police edition and it did have an oil cooler but it had a different oil filter adaptor that the cooler lines came out of. I just swapped the standard filter adaptor from the van motor to solve that. You should be able to use the wires from the Suburban brake switch if your changing over to a pressure switch for the brakelights, or just run a hot wire from an accesorry on your fuse box to one side of the switch and the wire going back to the brakelights to the other side.
Again, I have let far too much time pass since I last posted, but it never seems like I have done anything worthwhile.
Well, that changed this long weekend. I took Thursday off last weeka nd told the wife I would be in the garage.
It took forever but I was able to fabricate a radiator mounting system I can be proud of. I cut out the two little pieces of bar stock that were holding the radiator up solely from the flanges. I replaced it with a frame that goes all the way around the radiator and has a piece of angle iron underneath to help support the weight of the radiator. And then to secure it I welded tubes on the top of the bottom, ran thraded rod through them and used these to clamp the radiator in place. I am very pleased.
Other updates: the wiring is done, the trun signals, headlights, tailights, license light, third brake lights, reverse lights, dome light...they all work.
I am painfully close to having this thing on the road. I estimate 30-40 hours, but all the major fabrication is finally done. Wish me luck, I think I am on the home stretch.
Sounds like it's getting real close to cruizin'!!!!! Been following your build, should be a super-fine family cruizer, anxious to see it get going and get some test drive reports!!!! Have fun and keep us updated on the progress.
Dave: I am flattered that you are keeping an eye on this build. I am also very happy that someone with your fabricating skills and eye for safety would be looking over my shoulder. As you know, this car will haul my family and safety is a primary concern.
Here are some progress pics and a some picture of my radiator mount setup. (I was never confident about just hanging the radiator off the thin aluminum flanges).
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The taillights are 41 Chevy, the 3rd brake light is 40 Ford, and the reverse lights are led bullet license plate bolt lights that I mounted in the bumper bolts.
I have been lousy about posting lately because I have been too busy thrashing on the car to get it ready for the Goodguys show in Phoenix the weekend before Thanksgiving.
Today I decided to attempt to start it myself. I had planned on having a shop that I trust do the initial start up, but as I have worked on it more and more I have become more confident. And I am glad I did. After wiring the fuel pump correctly I turned the key and it came back to life after being dormant for over a year.
Thank you for all the help. I will try to be better about posting as I finish it up and get it on the road.
Here is a link to some video. I still have that same smile on my face hours later.
http://sharing.theflip.com/session/2.../video/6767697
Congrats!!! What a great car! I look forward to the day when I can fire mine up too! Keep us posted on your progress...Quote:
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I can't believe it has been nearly a year since I last posted. I did get the car on the road in time for the Goodguys show last November, but had some difficulties and spent a good deal of time "working out the kinks. There are great stories to go with all of these but I have:
1. reinstalled the driveshaft (after picking it up off the street),
2. addressed the rear suspension and made some more room for the rear tires (blown tire/heavy father-in-law),
3. replaced the transmission (learned a lot about common mistakes with automatic transmissions),
4. installed a transmission cooler (still learning about transmissions),
5. added an access panel to the trunk from the cab (important stuff locked in trunk)
6. added a radiator overflow tank (at least there wasn't a leak)
7. installed an emergency brake using the original handle (I had to make it more difficult for myself)
...and now I can hopefully make some real progress.
After fixing and redoing alot of things I chose to tackle a project with some more immediate gratification...upholstery.
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So here is my first attempts at upholstery. I am working from the back to the front. I had to do a great deal of woodworking to get to this point and then I bought a whole role of tan vinyl to start wrapping stuff with. When it comes time to start sewing stuff I will call in a friend to make the foam and leather from a 2004 Bravada work in my 73 year old car.
Here are the before pics of the package tray and the bare back seat. There is also a picture that shows how I recessed a pocket for the rear speakers to make them mount flush. I chose to make an upholstered speaker grill so that I could get access to the speakers without disassmbling the entire interior.
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Here is what some of the finished product looks like and a mockup of one side of the seat. You may also notice that I used a thinner luan lumber for the speaker grill. I wish I had taken some pictures of the armrests in their raw wood state, I am really proud of the way they came together. The armrests required a number of complex curves and molding to the body contours. I don't have a picture of it, but I have punched a pattern of holes in the vinyl for the speakers.
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Since this is the family hot rod, it will need to be equipped to latch in some car seats. So before I went any further I need latching brackets. So that is what I started working on tonight. I bent some 1/4 inch rod into a rectangular shape, cut some grooves in a 2 in wide piece of 1/8 in flat stock and welded it rock solid. I will have pictures for you tomorrow.(The wife is going out of town tomorrow so I can stay up late and work in the garage.)
This was also the first night that it was comfortable to work in the garage. Temperatures were below a hundred here today, that is big deal for us in AZ.
Jay
I really like the interior Jay, it looks fantastic! Your project has certainly come together nicely! Congrats and a big "well done" for taking your time and doing it right--and for doing so much of it yourself, even the upholstery!!!
BTW, 8 AM here in SoDak, temp is almost up to 60! If you could spare about 15 degrees could you please send it my way???
Dave:
Thanks for the kind words. Knowing your attention to detail, that means alot.
The goals for tonight are to get the child seat latching hooks done and to start fashioning some new arm rests/door pulls for the front doors.
Wish me luck.
Here is what I accomplished tonight. I got the child seat latching hooks fabricated and installed. They are probably sufficent but I think I may reinforce them further in the future. The latching hooks themselves are plenty stout, but the bolts that anchor them could be stronger. I used rivnuts because I am working alone and my arm isn't long enough to reach under the car. I am thinking I might weld some big nuts on the back of some flat stock that is long enough to connect both mounting points and then fasten the latching hook assembly with much stronger hardware.
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I also did the armrests for the front seats, but I am not in love with them. The armrests seem uninspired and clunky. I will need to cut them down to hide the installation screws so they will get much thinner/shorter. That might help. I also want to deepen the finger pulls so that they feel more comfortable. I am open to criticism and advice.
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Thanks.
Good plan on the seat mounts, I like rivnuts, but a backing plate with nuts would be much stronger..Heck it's for kids, can't make it too strong!
On the armrest, maybe an inch shorter, then tapered to the bottom??? Thinkin' maybe something like 1/2 the angle on the seat back???
Apparently, it has been 8 years since I last updated this thread. A lot has changed since then, yet kinda stayed the same.
Let me explain. I sold the 1937 LaSalle featured in this thread about 2 years ago after purchasing another 1937 Lasalle. The new purchase is the exact same year, model and style as the previous one...but so much better. It is a complete car with no serious rot, a complete interior, engine, etc.
In fact, it is so good I decided to do what I call a "no compromises build". It will in fact have compromises as I am still pretty frugal, but I place a higher value on my time than I did way back when.
First step was to order a complete custom chassis from Scott's Hot Rods. My interactions with Scott's were good, not to say that there weren't some hiccups, but I am very pleased with the product they delivered: complete chassis, front susp, rear susp, 9 in, disc brakes, all the plumbing, fuel line, brake lines, fuel tank, fuel pump, motor mounts rack and pinion, powdercoated, and assembled. Not cheap, but after I added up all the parts and all the compromises it would take to update the original frame and my time it was a no-brainer.
I am trying to upload pictures, but I will need to refresh my knowledge on doing so.
A few weeks ago we completely disassembled a complete car and moved it on to the new chassis, and there it sits until I can wrap up some major home renovation projects.
WOW, look at all the new parts. That's cool.
Congrats and it's nice to see you here again.
And thanks for the pics.
Welcome back and congrats on the new nicer body and that chassis is saweet!
Welcome back stranger.
Looks like a GOOD start on the new car.
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