How about "Pop's Pool Hall" or "Bald Guy's Brothel"............:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
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How about "Pop's Pool Hall" or "Bald Guy's Brothel"............:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
Or maybe Washington State Wiseguy. :p:LOL::LOL::LOL:
Don
Pop s cat house and speed shop
Hehe, I coulda used one of those badges about 40 years ago. The pay probably wasn't the greatest, but oh, those perks. :LOL::LOL:
Don
So what happens to the Dodge truck now? I have a thought (Just what you need - another project). Drop that Dodge body onto an older Toyota pickup frame. Adjustable torsion bars up front, 4-cylinder economy, etc. Would make a nice "beater" style shop truck...Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
Wow poor Dan. I'm actually glad he decided to sand it. It's a royal pain in the butt, but it will be done right! One thing I have learned after building the addition to my house is that I now ask people to write down the details I'm telling them, or give them a bullet list, so they actually do what I ask. I'd go round and round with contractors and subs, catching them using wrong materials, or completely ignoring what they were suppose to do. Nothing like time delays and repeatedly getting the same thing wrong to really get the temper flying! It's one of those things that my wife often can't understand when I work on my truck. I'll get stuck on working on one thing, start tearing into another, and get royally pissed because I need a specialty part which will further delay what I wanted to get done in the first place. She'll say, if it's so frustrating then why are you doing it? Some times I want to yell because it's so damb fun getting my knucles busted! And that's just my stuff, not what somebody else is doing to my stuff! :LOL::LOL:
Hang in there, and can't wait to see the pics of the new project!
It's been a while since I did any updates on Dan's rpu, mainly because all that has been going on is getting the powder coating redone. He has spent the past couple of weeks sanding the filler smooth, and it paid off because it is actually straighter than it was the first time we had it coated.
He took it to the powder coater last Tuesday, and Friday they called us to let us know it was done, and so were my wheels for the rpu I am building. Last night we went to the shop and unwrapped the frame, and it really came out nice this time. As upset as we were with the clear coming off I have to say the owner of the shop manned up and stood behind his work. They completely stripped about 43 pieces back to bare metal and recoated every one of them. A lot of companies would have tried to weasel out, but he was true to his word. He even wanted to not charge me for doing my wheels red, but I insisted on paying because I felt he had done enough.
Anyway, here are some pictures of Dan's frame..............again!:rolleyes: This thread is getting like Groundhog Day, I feel we have been in this exact spot a few times before. :D But this time I think we are good to go.
Don
Damn, Don---I'm happy for you and for Dan.--Onward and upward!!!---Brian
Thanks Brian. I actually saw a smile on his face last night, so I guess the pain of the last 2 months is somewhat forgotten. This is such a FUN hobby sometimes. :rolleyes:
Don
Purty neat now - phew:cool::cool:
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Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
Or as Yogi would say "looks like it's Deja-vu all over again". :D
Wow it looks fluid! I'm glad to hear they stuck by their work and everyone is happy. Shame to cover it with a body.
Glad to hear everything in back on track
Looks great, can't wait to see it all done!!
I know Dan will be listening for those little cracking sounds as we bolt stuff on. That is how we knew we had a problem last time..........you could hear the clear cracking as you tightened stuff down.
I don't know if I mentioned it or not, but the pc guy told us he just had another job do the same thing. He says in all the years they have been doing this it has never happened before..........lucky us. :( He is still blaming it on defective clear, but I don't think so.
Don
Pix of the frame are looking good Don.
Can't wait on the assembly progress shots.
Paul
Thanks guys. Tonight we got the rearend assembled, at least as far as getting the pumpkin installed. We also got the housing installed into the frame. This time it looks like the coating is sticking fine, we just ran a Dremel around each bolt hole and the bolts would go right in.
Hey Streetwerkz, does it hurt the temper of leaf springs to powder coat them? Dan has heard it does, and his have been coated one time already (actually three bakings, one for primer one for black one for clear. Now he needs to have them blasted again to get the clear and black off and he is afraid to have them coated again. He is thinking of spraying them black. Are his fears founded? I'm not sure if 400 degrees is enough to hurt them or not.
Don
To the best of my limited spring knowledge it will not hurt them.
When I started coating I was asked the same thing, and call several spring repair shops, and a manufacture for dump truck leaf's who all said it would not hurt typical springs.
coil, or leaf I have never heard of or experienced any problems
However you know there could always be that one spring company doing something "Special" that could change that.
I think the pain will slip into a distant memory when the rolling chassis goes back together. I'm glad this episode is behind you guys now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
Josh, I phoned Posies Monday and asked them that questions, if the heat would hurt them, especially since this will be the second go-round for each leaf. They said as long as you don't exceed 400 degrees you are ok. I asked the PC what temp they use and they said 400 and when they do springs they do a "slow bake" whatever that means. But they said they do springs all the time so they take that precaution.
Based on that info we took them back to be PC'd and are supposed to pick them up this PM. These are the last pieces holding us back from reassembling the frame back to a roller. That is our plan for this weekend, to get back to where we were 2 months ago.:(
Bill, we are happy to put this one behind us too. There is an upside though. All the grinding and refilling has left the frame a lot better than the first time around, and we like the look of the parts without the clear on top........more natural somehow.
In a weird, related story, Dan came home the other day and told me he had to go to the eye doctor. He has been getting some irritation in his left eye. The Doctor started looking at his eye and said "wow, this is very strange, there is some little piece of something in there, but I've never seen anything like that...........it is small and jagged, and CLEAR." They had to grind it out, and when he got it out it ended up being a small piece of clear powder coating! Dan had worn goggles last Sunday while blowing clear powder coating dust off of the springs before we took them back for recoating, and evidently a small piece got into his eye.:eek:
I guess we are going to have to sweep and scrub the shop down to get rid of that stuff.
Don
not trying to make light of it.... but this is turning into a script for a horror movie:(
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Tell me about it! :eek: I sure hope it's smooth sailing from here on in.:) Dan picked up the springs yesterday afternoon, and last night we got the rear end completely installed. However, the owner of the PC shop called and said they forgot one spring leaf in the booth, but luckily it was for the front spring, so it didn't hold us back. They met me at the shop this AM and I got that one last piece and today we are going to get the front end back under the car. That will put us back where we were two months ago.
What a difference this time..............parts are going together like they should, only minor dremeling of the holes and the bolts slip right in. Last time the coating was so thick we had to grind and grind, this time a few seconds and we are done. It was actually fun assembling the parts last night as we didn't have to worry about that cracking sound. Everything looks so much better this time too without the clear on them, so much more natural.
We even snapped on the rear hubcaps last night, Dan went with '40 Ford caps to match the '40 Ford wheels. The sides of the car needed some bling as all that black dominated everything, but the caps helped a lot. I'll snap some pictures tonight when we get it back to a roller.
Plan for tomorrow is that Dan will start making up dummy brake lines so we can order the real ones in stainless steel, and I am going to continue stripping the motor down so we can change the color. He hasn't finalized the body color yet, so we can't repaint the motor until he does that.
Maybe in the next month or so we can have the engine in the car and test fire it.:D:D
Don
Oh, we took extra pains this time to triangulate the rear axle to the frame. Didn't want a repeat of the goof up we made on Don's car where the wheelbase was off side to side a little. Lesson to be learned, don't line up a car when you are dead tired!
Wow, I just went back and read most of this thread..........I didn't realize how long it had been running and how little progress we made in the past year or so.:o In May of 08 I was talking about trying to make Daytona in November..........THAT worked out real well ! :o Oh well, Rome wasn't built in a day.
BTW Bob Parmenter, you posted some pictures of your roadster you were building at that time.............how about some current pictures and an update? Looks like a great car coming along there. Here is what you posted a year ago.
Don
This was a VERY productive weekend. Not only did we get Dan's car up on wheels, but we pushed his car and mine out into the sunshine for some pictures. :D We also tore down his 455 Olds engine so we could strip the paint off of it to change the color.
We built that engine 4 years ago and it has never been fired, but it has been sitting in a dusty shop for so long we are going to go all the way through it again. It is going to the machine shop for hot tanking and new cam bearings, plus a touch up hone on the cylinders. We may step up the compression ratio a little too, the forged TRW's we originally used came in at around 9 to 1, we want to move up a point to 10 to 1, and maybe go to a different cam too. The one he has is fairly radical, but we are going to talk to Comp Cams and see what they have that might be better for this combination.
He's running a 4:00 trac Lock rear with a 2800 stall converter, so bottom end should be no problem. We might want to take a bit of that bottom end power off to give the skinny 16 inch tires a chance.
We still have some machining to do on the Buick drums to clear the 39 Lincoln backing plates, and will try to get that done this week. It's starting to look like a car, and once the motor and transmission are painted and in it should really take a leap forward.
Here are some pictures from today.
Don
Lookin sharp Don! Must be exciting doing these two together. Have the cats jumped onto the rolling chasis yet? They seem to love getting onto stuff we'd rather to keep them off of.:CRY:
Thanks Steve. No, ever since Scooter passed away Sniffy has been moved to our home. It didn't seem fair to leave her at the shop without a companion, so at home she has the other 3 to keep her company.:) She's 16 or 17, so I figure she can live out the rest of her life mooching food from me at dinnertime.:D:D
Don
Hooray! Visible progress!:D:D Dan has got to be breathing big sighs of relief after all you guys have been through with his frame recently. Can't wait to see this one finally come together...:cool:
I have a question for you, though, Don.:confused: When you were building the Dodge truck it was pretty easy to tell which one you would drive - the roadster in warm weather; the pickup when it's cool or wet out and you need to be enclosed. However, with two roadsters how will you decide which one to drive?:rolleyes::LOL::LOL:
They both are looking good. Dan's frame is much better than even a lot of the"pro" builts one's I've seen over the years. Is there a Detroit or "Oakland" in the future?
Earl
Don,
Sure glad things are going smoother this time around for Dan. Yours looks great!
Ken
You know Don looking back on the last picture you posted, the front has an old radial engine fighter plane look. With the chrome valve covers peeking over the cowl at 45 degree angles, and the chrome bell intake straight up! Very cool for symetry alone.
Thanks everyone.
Jim: I thought the same thing........which roadster to drive? It will be worse if and when I ever get around to finally finishing the rebuild of my 27 roadster. But then I remembered Ken Thurm............he has like 20 or 30 roadsters and seems to have no problem figuring out which one to use. :D And he keeps adding to the stable. :D (he's my hero :LOL:)
Earl: The Kids and I have talked a bunch of times about how hard it must be to build and prep a car for something like Oakland or the Ridler. I mean, EVERY car has flaws, EVERY ONE. It is one thing to build a nice car, even if it's a trailer queen, but man, it must be insane to build one where a speck in the paint is cause to want to hang yourself. No, my hat is off to those who have that kind of dedication. :)
Ken: Thanks. Yep, the mood has been MUCH better around the house the last week or so. It is actually fun putting stuff on the frame this time, the holes just need a touch of the dremel to get bolts in, and everything has been prebuilt once before, so we know how it all goes. We were still sweeping up bits of plastic clear coating in the shop yesterday. It must be akin to giving birth..............all that pain is forgotten once the end product is sitting in front of you.:D
Steve: I kinda thought the same thing. I like the water pump pulley exposed like that. Now if I could mount strobe lights on it so when it spins............;)
I got Dans pistons and other parts ordered today. I checked around and found the best price was Summit. The prices ranged from $ 43.95 per piston to $ 67.95 per piston, with Summit at the lowest end, and this was for exactly the same forged L2323F30 everyone else had. They were out of stock but are drop shipping them from the factory to me. I guess Summit really can be cheaper than the so called discount houses. I called the machine shop and probably Wednesday we will take the block and other pistons back for him to do his thing.
We would love to fire the engine by this time next month, but first the motor and transmission have to be assembled, painted and installed, and a driveshaft ordered. I think we are going to use Denny's Driveline for the driveshaft. I have one under my 27 and it is based on new tubing and comes all powdercoated and stuff like that. Once Dan hears that engine fire up it should really start to become real for him.
Don
Looking fantastic Don, I was hoping you would post something soon I was having withdrawls.
You will have to make a convertable top for the RPU ( not enough hair on top will sun burn)...........LOL
BradC
Funny you should mention that Brad, Dan has a top bow kit he bought for it, but I didn't get that with the free package. :( He is keeping it for the new body, but I may buy one and put a top on it anyway. I have doors on this car, so I can easily climb in under a top.
Here is the mock up we did when Dan owned this body, I think the lines make the car a little better looking.
Don
Don, I like the RPU with the top. It does give it a "clean" look. For some reason I have always liked the RPU with the top on rather than off.
I know what you mean on THE car shows. I wired up the Joe Nitti roadster (took Bruce Myer award) number of years ago. All cloth wires and layed out in the same manner shown in 1950 photo's. Took awhile. My only claim to fame when it was a "milestone" car in Street Rodder and my name was in print.
Earl
Did you really, Earl? That's very cool. The Nitti roadster was one of my all time favorites, as it is for most people. Just in case anyone doesn't know about that car, here are some shots.
One thing I like about these forums is that you get to rub elbows with people who have done great stuff, like you doing that wiring. :):)
Don
Is that one of the Kwik Top kits? I haven't used one yet, but they seem to be gaining in popularity. Best deal I've seen so far on them is from Gearhead, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1928-...Q5fAccessoriesQuote:
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It might be Bob, I think he said it was Australian or something like that. I'll have to ask him.
Bob, in case you missed my question, where are you now on this little roadster? I like the look of it.
Don
Yeah, the Kwik Top is Australian, probably the same one. Let me know what you think of it.
Sorry if I missed your question. The '28 is just in mock up stage. It's not a primary project, just work on it when I have some extra time or inspiration. Last thing I did was fit up the engine and trans, fabbed some mounts, long way to go yet.
Bob, I asked Dan, it is a Kwik Top. He said it seems fine in the mockup we have done so far, and we ran into a guy with a 32 at a show who had one and he like it and it looked good. On that basis I would think they were ok, and the price isn't horrible.
Isn't it a ***** when you have so many project cars you have to make time to work on one or another? :D Your little roadster is going to be very cool when you get it running.
Don
WOW ...... based on your progress Don .... I feel like I'm going backwards!!!
I've been searching for tires & trying to bend up some tube to finish the frame.
Keep us posted.
Ratty 46 aka/ Paul