Thread: Liquid Oxygen
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02-05-2004 01:04 PM #16
Vegas yeah I remember them, I also
recall see'n a green Hemi Challanger
at bigs place,turned into a purple Cuda
now didn't it.
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02-05-2004 01:47 PM #17
OK, heads,there a few problems with your theory. #1. iron burns when oxyogen hits it. everyone here has already said that. #2 If you manage to get oxyogen to -600, you will not have a container to keep it stable and a hose to feed the stuff in. #3, any weber carburetor becomes almost unusable below -50. Trust me, I run AMCs, and most of them run webers in the 80s. hitting at -600 would instantly freeze any moving part into unusable. Finally#4 If all of this was null and void, and you somehow managed to get around all of the, where are you going to get liquid oxyogen and the cooling agent anyway? I offically call you a dumbass. Feel free to distpute this one, I was a science major in HS.Right engine, Wrong Wheels
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02-05-2004 02:14 PM #18
Yeah, Mr Nasa thinks different
about his little platinium small block
and don't you worry about them
side drafts,matter of fact liquid oxygen
under enough pressure becomes
solid mass.Insulted steel platinium alloy
with platinium liner keeps it in place
Solid oxygen mass changes to gas
before it turns liqud.Platinum lines
just a little bigger than the hairs on
my ass pipe it in under the carbs.
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02-05-2004 02:17 PM #19
Sooo...
"The Space Shuttle Main Engine operates at greater temperature extremes than any mechanical system in common use today. The fuel, liquefied hydrogen at -423 degrees Fahrenheit (-253 degrees Celsius) is the second coldest liquid on Earth. When it and the liquid oxygen are combusted, the temperature in the main combustion chamber is 6,000 degrees Fahrenheit (3,316 degrees Celsius), hotter than the boiling point of iron. "-NASA
....that must be a hell of a motor you're running there, What is the block made of ?you should post some pic's. Also please post some pic's of your brakes they must be fairly impressive also.
Dan"swell"-Dirty Harry
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02-05-2004 02:41 PM #20
Absolute zero is the phrase your try'n to
avoid,further compression of oxygen turns
liquid to solid.After it has reached this state
it returns to gasious state then to liquid.
Clutch disc is a steel alloy not fiber,
braking is done with help from super duty
clutch set and a little M-22
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02-05-2004 02:51 PM #21
Laxfan; Will you guys please stop, your killing me. I haven't laughed this hard since I was in the Army and seen a guy in the Army reserve trying to fill a water tank with a fire hose. It was just like he was trying to hold on to a Giant Snake 30 feet inthe air. It's times like that I wished I had a cam corder,man -o- man. Good Times!!!
Vegas
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02-05-2004 02:59 PM #22
I know the old rockcrushers are tough but....
.....The kind of power it would take to send a 67 hunk of iron to a 4.6 flat 1/4.....
seems like you wouldn't have a m22 left to help slow you down. But I guess I could be wrong.
Dan"swell"-Dirty Harry
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02-05-2004 03:02 PM #23
Ok I really didn't want to invest this kind of time replying to a HEADcase but since a few people have been a little off on the facts regarding liquid o2 I'll step in as educator.
Just so you guys know where I'm coming from. I transfill liquid oxygen every work day, several times a day. I deliver liquid oxygen to patients than need oxygen in gaseous form.
First. Iron does not burn when liquid oxygen hits it. Iron CAN burn in the presence of oxygen but it does not spontaneously combust. If it did I would be screwed evey time I try to tighten a fitting with a crescent wrench.
Second. Liquid oxygen becomes liquid at about -270 degrees farenheit and is usually stored at about -300. There is no point in storing liquid o2 at -600 f.
Third. Liquid oxygen can be bought by ANYONE, no license is needed. You can buy it at many welding supply places.
OK now for the reasons that HEAD is a dipshit.
1. Oxygen and oil (such as that left on valve stems) is EXTEREMELY explosive. If you were to introduce any significant quantity of lixuid o2 into the intake charge it would hit the oil on the intake valves, explode and blow the head apart. That's providing it doesn't interact with the gasoline just after it passes through the carb and cause a white hot flash fire.
2. If oxygen were used in a cool can as head suggests then the fuel would freeze instantly.
HEAD you really are a dipshit and a pathetic liar. Why don't you go out and start learning about cars for real, turn some wrenches, install a few goodies, see what happens when you change something on your car. Then and maybe then you won't be a dipshit and can start to have INTELLIGENT conversations with people about cars.
Abe
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02-05-2004 03:09 PM #24
Steady as she goes Scotty, YOu dont want to destabilizes the dylithiam. Then you'll blow the whole damn core!Can you rebuild a Qjet without breaking a nail?
Larissa
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02-05-2004 03:15 PM #25
Congrats, Head. Haven't seen this lively a response since Streets streaked the New Member Sign In Forum wid nuttin on but his Keds and a Kevlar helmet !!! Your BS is almost as funny, but I still gotta give the top award to me old pal Streets. What?? Were we supposed to believe any of your dribble?? What a space cadet.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-05-2004 03:59 PM #26
Yeah,
Not to blow that cast crank&piston
mind of yours Abe, the little old lady
with a plastic tube hang'n out of her
frozen nose told me different.
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02-05-2004 04:14 PM #27
I've got one final point to prove that this guy doesn't know his stuff: Absolute zero is -523 degrees F. Nothing can be colder than absolute zero because at absolute zero, there is no kinetic engergy (heat) left in the atoms. All molecular movement ceases. So, -600 degrees F is not possible.
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02-05-2004 04:16 PM #28
Yeah Dan,
The M22 with alloy clutch disc and alloy brakes
slow down 2950 lbs at 299mph with lots of room
to spare,the project is all Nasa ,some alloys are
soft enough to pair with hardened alloys making
it possible to run less than a 5.00 1/4 time and
brake without a chute.I ran a 3.00 gear set
and had so much top end I never got the little
4 speed out of third gear!
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02-05-2004 04:18 PM #29
not only mechanics on this board but rocket science as well. I do not know rockets but I know bologna. Like lunch meat Head?Can you rebuild a Qjet without breaking a nail?
Larissa
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02-05-2004 04:21 PM #30
Thank you Club Hot Rod ; I love this site!!! Man-o-Man this is funnier then Abott & Castello, Laurel & Hardy, Jerry Lewis & Dean Martin, all rolled together. This guy brain...I mean head is a glutten for punishment. Now I don't now whos right but this is some funny _ _ _ _!!! This is over my head. But my sides haven't stopped hurting yet. lol
Vegas
Welcome to CHR. I think that you need to hook up your vacuum advance. At part throttle when cruising you have less air and fuel in each cylinder, and the air-fuel mixture is not as densely packed...
MSD 8360 distributor vacuum advance