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Probably 3 or 4 good supports, 1" X 1" running crossways just below the roof, and another one front to rear. Then 2 or 3 braces on each side running at an angle to the opposite side on the floor. Big thing is to get the sides, door jambs, front and rear from moving when the old roof is removed.... Shut and latch all the doors, might even want to use some straps to temporarily tack weld them shut. Keeping everything and anything from moving is the key to keep things in position...no such thing as overbracing....
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The high top roof is a key part of the van for storage of extra containers of selling product and I am going to delete the slider door and handle for a cleaner look.Then build a sleeper bed across the van right behind the seats with a wall between the sleeper and the rear cargo area.If it wasn't for all that,I wouldn't cut it.
Thank you for the reply.When I spoke to the handicap van place who doesn't want to do the job,he said it was because of all the steel they would have to add.Kind of hinted it was because of some legal requirement.I'm not sure if all these unitli body conversion vans over time shift somewhat:confused:.I am going to look hard to weld in a solution for the long term and try to get as much info out of the handicap installer as I can.I do agree to brace it as much as I can temporary while cutting it and permanently.Sure wish I had a tubing bender.Maybe a halo bar that went all around the top and tied into the base and top.
Thanks again Dave.I'll take that advise and put it to good use.
What do you think about big corner gussets top and bottom??.
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Corner gussets won't do much, the big problem is the door openings at the jambs on top!!! They need very good support, if the jambs move and you don't catch it and straighten them, you'll have a van full of grief forever!!! Don't know that a halo would do much, good bracing with a few X's for added strength would be better. Bracing is more to do with the correct structure then anything else.
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Dave I looked again at the(yellow) shop van.Only the one rear door is not lining up.All the rest of the body lines are ok as well as the other doors.Beginning to think it is the hinges on that one door.There is a fair amount of play.Still want to play it safe.I think I know what you are talking about with a x'ed in braces.We will do that as a safety measure.I can also leave the roof bows in place until the high top is attached.I'll get up some pics as we go along.
Thanks.
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Here I am showing a example of a pipe lift on the sub frame that is a 4" lift.You can see where it is welded to the sub frame mounts and the stock rubber mounts then are slipped into the pipes by opening the stock frame mount holes so you can use the stock normal length bolts.Mine will be only 3"s.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ct93Custom.jpg
This makes working on a V8 conversion very easy and allows for a bigger tire.
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That's cool, Gary. I always though Astrovans could make a neat hot rod shop truck. Lots of them out there and a very versitile vehicle.
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Some details I need to add to the lift pipe spacers for anyone who reads this thread later is things you need to do.
The E-brake bracket has to be moved.
The intermediate steering shaft is good to go up to a 2" lift.After that Overland Vans sells one.The other way to go about it is the newer full size vans have shafts long enough to cover up to 4" lifts and are the same size I.D. and bolt pattern.
The coils of the brake lines are normally long enough to spread out and be ok with the lift.
The fan shroud needs to be trimmed for clearance.
Top rad hose needs extension depending on how big of a lift.
You can build your own bumper brackets to relocate the bumper or buy them from Overlands.
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This is a photochop of somewhat the van looks like with the slider delete.
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The Astro vans have a one of a kind Clam shell spring mount and a 10 bolt one of a kind offset.I have taken the rear end housing out of the shop van that is going to the junk yard so i have a housing for a rear end shop to copy the mounts to build a Ford 9" for the van.
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The axles side by side show how much different the offset is.Longer one on the driver's side.GM did that for more foot area.
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Fairwell to a friend.....................
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Couldn't see spending anymore time on this.Got the parts I needed and the measurements for the cutout for Ole Yellar.Still sorry to see it go.It has been a good van for me.:CRY:
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Yes-90 degree weather,broke the winch cable,sure wasn't easy to get it on the trailer without a rear end.
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So it put up a fight huh?
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Yep a trooper right to the end.
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This project has been 7 yrs in the making with 3 vans bring me to the point I am at now.So if it seems I'm abit picky about rust repair/restoration it is because of that and want to get as close as I can to a daily driver show quality.
The floor pan/wheel well is more visible because of a 3" pipe lift that is planed.I have a second sub frame that I am going to build up with the sbc 383 on it.It will look somewhat like this:
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ct93Custom.jpg
The matting I spoke of:
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...trepair289.jpg
There is more...hang on for a minute;
Kind of ticks me off the main reason I am involved in this repair is the precious owner hammered down the driver's wheel well for more foot room taring a hole in the wheel well.It is truly a rust free Florida van.He let it go that way to allow the matting under the rubber mat to wick moisture on the floor pan and create rust.This is the cut out of the tare/wheel well area.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...trepair292.jpg
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That will expose the wheel well/inter wheel well more and is the primary reason why this rust repair needs to look original.
I wanted to work on this for the most part standing up.So I found if I jack the van part way with a floor jack,I can then use the bumper jack I have to get it up in the air.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...trepair288.jpg
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So the wet matting rusted the floor pan by the area on the drive's gas/brake peddle.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...trepair293.jpg
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It's pretty pitted and has pin holes.It isn't easy to get to it under the van because it towards the inside of the sub frame too.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...trepair290.jpg
It is a sensitive area as well because the center sub frame mount is towards the back of the effected floor pan.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...trepair301.jpg
More of the pitted floor pan;
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...trepair303.jpg
Cleaned up some more:
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So that is where I left it for now.I shot it with this weld threw primer.Not POR yet,but will be.
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