I asked this a while back, and if I recall, most said to start at ~28. I did, have but a bunch of miles on the car and----lumber wagon. Not bad on good roads, but since the most local communities with the exception of the town I live in, have no money, which means roads aren't being repaired. I've wandered (search only) a few other sites and folks go all over the place. I'm gong to try 24/22 (front-rear) but will welcome other suggestions.