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08-30-2013 04:00 PM #436
M, you can zoom it and put yer eagle eye on it. When you stop the cursor on the diagram, click it to zoom. I'll see if I can tell about the wiper motor wiring. The brake light switch is supposed to be hot all the time. I'll get back to ya.It's All Good
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08-30-2013 04:06 PM #437
Hell I couldn't even find a wiper or wiper switch - - - - but I've got an excuse..
" I'm drinking from my saucer, 'cause my cup is overflowed ! "
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08-30-2013 04:13 PM #438
I can't find the dam wiper switch or the motor. I know the had em in '62
Let me go back and check a '61 or '63It's All Good
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08-30-2013 04:20 PM #439
HMMM, They ain't showing the wiper wiring on the '61 or '62 diagrams unless I looked right at it and didn't see it(happens alot these days).
here's the '63 right page;http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/t...re5765-215.jpgLast edited by JOATMON; 08-30-2013 at 04:35 PM. Reason: wrong link
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08-30-2013 04:27 PM #440
Dammit it pasted the wrong one, here is the '63 left page which shows the whole wiper circuit;
http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/t...re5765-214.jpgIt's All Good
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08-31-2013 01:23 AM #441
That '62 diagram is the one I keep tripping over - no wiper circuit. The '63 (left) looks like what I think the circuit should be: Red to switch from circuit breaker (positive power feed), black from switch to motor (probably low speed), orange-black from switch to motor (probably high speed), blue from circuit breaker to motor (power feed to the park switch circuit). The park switch is internal to the motor, and not noted on the diagram.Rrumbler, Aka: Hey you, "Old School", Hairy, and other unsavory monickers.
Twistin' and bangin' on stuff for about sixty or so years; beat up and busted, but not entirely dead - yet.
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08-31-2013 08:05 AM #442
YEAH, that's exactly what I was thinking I hope Y'all know that I'm joking 'cause I don't have a clue I'm just in a silly mood this morning but it keeps me from throwing things that I have to replace later on
My problem is that "without" a complete rewire, I am destined to use ?part? of what the PO has done and apply it to Y'alls suggestions with my fingers crossed.
UPDATE: I pulled the switch out yesterday and pulled the two wires that were connected to it out this morning. If you will notice the pic below you will see a wire on the center right and one to the outer left - - - the one to the center right was originally connected to the wiper motor and the other was coming from the engine bay/battery? and was continuously HOT all the time even with the key off. There was another constant hot wire also hooked to the wiper motor that was spliced into the hot side of the brake light unit. NOW, or as of this morning, the brake light unit has only two wires as it's supposed to (?I think?) and if that "tiny" spark that I created didn't blow a fuse then I should still have brake lights - - - all the gauges still work and it cranked afterwards so ?maybe? that is a plus.
I'm thinking that I'll take the switch with me when I drive up next week to pick up the wiper motor that my buddy has fixed for me and get him to check it out and maybe draw me a diagram with "Crayons" (more my style) that I can bring home and wire with an inline fuse possibly???
Thanks for everyone's help on this I do appreciate it and couldn't have gotten this far without it. Now I'm headed to make a BR and then I'm kicking back in honor of all the real "Laborers" out there.
Have a blessed and safe Holiday Weekend Y'all !
Em
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" I'm drinking from my saucer, 'cause my cup is overflowed ! "
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08-31-2013 12:54 PM #443
Here's the ?grasp? that I have on this wiper wiring so far.
1. The switch should be served with a fused hot wire when the ignition is on.
2. There should be two wires coming from the switch to the motor (one for low speed and one for high speed)
3. The wiper motor is grounded by "it's" mounting bolts and ?I think? the switch is also but it could possibly require a separate ground wire.
Am I even close?.
" I'm drinking from my saucer, 'cause my cup is overflowed ! "
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08-31-2013 03:21 PM #444
Wiper motor wiring ususally will have 2 hot feeds to it---One will be ignition side so the wipers only work if switch is ON and also a hot feed to the motor to return the wipers to the stowed/parked position and will then be switched off---------hope that's understandable??????
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08-31-2013 03:31 PM #445
Thanks for the reply, Jerry. That's what my buddy that fixed my Wiper Motor says but then I'm told that one is low speed and the other is high speed. I'll danged sure find out when I go up there and pick my motor up 'cause I'm gonna make him "PROVE" it to me and show me how to wire that ^%@^&%#@ before I bring it home and stumble into the installation.
have a good'un
Em.
" I'm drinking from my saucer, 'cause my cup is overflowed ! "
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08-31-2013 05:30 PM #446
I'm not sure that a '62 had a "park" feature. As I recall a lot of electric wipers in that era had to be turned off before shutting the key off or they would simply remain in last position, and "park" when you came back and started the engine again (assuming you turned the switch "OFF". Used to see a lot of cars with the wipers in mid travel on a rainy day, seems to me.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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08-31-2013 05:57 PM #447
I am thinking the same as you RSpears.. don't remember a 62 having "park" for wipers.
When you turned the switch to off, it didn't open (the switch) until the end of the stroke, my memory says fwiw...
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09-01-2013 06:02 AM #448
All very good points and some bench testing should let us know which it is ????.
" I'm drinking from my saucer, 'cause my cup is overflowed ! "
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09-01-2013 06:26 AM #449
Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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09-06-2013 03:24 PM #450
Brief Wiper Motor update if I may?
Drove up to my friends shop that had my wiper motor fixed and learned what I "need" to know about finishing up this project.
The motor has two hot leads going into it - - - one is run and one is park. I also took the switch and he figured out what I needed to do and recommended that I use the old switch even tho it's probably not the OE that came from the factory. Since I CAN NOT get under the dash to access the fuse block, I'm coming from the engine bay with an inline fuse and there will be an ignition served hot wire going into the switch and two leads coming from the switch to the motor. It gets it's ground from the mounting plate.
I'll let Y'all know if it runs and parks after I wire and install it.
Hope everyone has a great weekend,
Em.
" I'm drinking from my saucer, 'cause my cup is overflowed ! "
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