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I have a 68 mustang with an aftermarket 302. It has an "H-pipe" exhaust system that has the tailpipes come out in front of the rear wheels. It also has cut-outs that come out below the middle of the doors facing outward, like the rear pipes. Since I usually drive with my cut-outs open, would I be able to put an "afterburn" type flamethrower exhaust system in the cut outs? would it make flames come out all four exhaust exits? is that safe? what if i just want the flames out the cut outs?
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Originally posted by 68Stang
I have a 68 mustang with an aftermarket 302. It has an "H-pipe" exhaust system that has the tailpipes come out in front of the rear wheels. It also has cut-outs that come out below the middle of the doors facing outward, like the rear pipes. Since I usually drive with my cut-outs open, would I be able to put an "afterburn" type flamethrower exhaust system in the cut outs? would it make flames come out all four exhaust exits? is that safe? what if i just want the flames out the cut outs?
Is that safe?
You gotta be kidding.
You're riding around in a potentially flammable vehicle that carries it's own fuel supply that could ignite at the least provocation with spectacular results that would inflict serious injuries on you and the innocent bystanders.
To me, flamethrowers are beyond stupid, but what I'd like to know is what you expect to accomplish with them?
Well, I have a few extra bucks and would like to do something a little different to my car. Having little prior knowledge of how flamethrowers work and what exactly they involve, posting this thread was one of my first steps to find out information about this system. I did not post this thread to take a poll on whether members thought flamethrowers were "stupid"--I posted it to try to figure out what results I could expect from an "H-Pipe" exhaust system with cut-outs and flamethrowers...
I'll try to be more specific next time so as not to confuse the more zealous members... ;)
Stang, if you want to wow the geeks at the drive-in, go for it, but I'm in the "zealous" category with C9x.
Here are 21 threads that deal somewhat with flamethrowers, knock yourself out.
http://www.clubhotrod.com/forums/sea...der=descending
I thought about flamethrowers on my pickup truck, but the thought of stabbing my shins on the hot dog skewers was too painful... and besides, I burn my eyebrows now on the regular BBQ. Imaging what flames at crotch level would do?
Jeff:toocool: :toocool:
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Originally posted by techinspector1
Stang, if you want to wow the geeks at the drive-in, go for it, but I'm in the "zealous" category with C9x.
Here are 21 threads that deal somewhat with flamethrowers, knock yourself out.
http://www.clubhotrod.com/forums/sea...der=descending
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Originally posted by 68Stang
Well, I have a few extra bucks and would like to do something a little different to my car. Having little prior knowledge of how flamethrowers work and what exactly they involve, posting this thread was one of my first steps to find out information about this system. I did not post this thread to take a poll on whether members thought flamethrowers were "stupid"--I posted it to try to figure out what results I could expect from an "H-Pipe" exhaust system with cut-outs and flamethrowers...
I'll try to be more specific next time so as not to confuse the more zealous members... ;)
I'm a pretty easy-going guy, but flamethrowers really make me wonder.
We spend lots of time, money, blood, sweat and tears getting these cars built, make the wiring and fuel lines - among other things - as safe as possible with quality items, most of us carry a fire extinguisher or two and to add flamethrowers goes beyond my understanding.
Having the flames very close to underneath the door looks very dangerous . . . assuming your cutouts are in the usual place.
Not to mention scorched paint.
And then there's the problem of exiting the car if the flamethrowers don't shut down.
So what is hot rodding all about to you?
Having a good looking, good handling, fast little car or sitting in the parking lot pumping out flames cuz none of the above qualifications were met?
I'm not calling you stupid, but misguided does come to mind.
We both know flamethrowers are not the answer and never have been....
I'm in the "I'm against it" crowd, too. We all have opinions; that's mine.
If it doesn't make it go faster, handle better, or brake better, why bother??? Somebody else can wow the fans, I got better things to do!!!! Not even counting how unsafe a setup that would be......
Just to throw a little gas on the fire . . . I know, entirely inapproriate comment - a magazine guy posted an excellent, well done flame thrower article on a hot rod site a while back - and no, I ain't telling.
It was really obvious the article was originally slated for publication and also obvious the major hot rod type magazine told him to dump the article cuz it wasn't getting published no how, no way.
Do ya think the magazine might have gotten it's socks sued off if the article was printed, somebody built a flame-thrower from their instructions and neglected to fix the minor gas leak at the gas tank/fuel line juncture and the whole damn drive-in and a few people were burned all to hell and gone when the flamethrowers lit off the puddle of gasoline under the car?
How about if a guy with propane enhanced flamethrowers didn't look behind him, lit off the big flamers and burned down a roadster that just happened to be running 97 carburetors that just happened to be leaking a touch?
Not that 97's ever leak.
Probably be some blood leakage among other things....
Ever know anybody that was badly burned in a gasoline fire?
I did.
Geezus, what a sad situation and the pain lasts for months and years and he never did look right.
Light off a set of flamers at a Saturday night rod run and the only ones who will be thrilled will be the children.
Anyone with any maturity at all will look down at you and probably ask you to exit the premises post-haste while they cast aspersions and bad names in your direction.
Most rod runs I go to have a cop present.
I'd imagine you would get more than a simple traffic ticket once you pulled that little trick.
There's a lot of laws that could be applied and one would probably be confiscation of the vehicle or at the least it would be towed.
So if you can't use the flamers at a rod run, where would you use them?
It sounds like you have a nice little car and I'm sure with a little thinking you can figure out something to buy for it that will reap much better rewards than being known as the idiot with flamethrowers.
you guys are rediculous .... granted flamethrowers are dangerous ... but in the right hands they can be safely used for amusement purposes ... the problem is that so many people in the hot rod community are nothing but hard asses .... the same people who frown on me because i have an import ... now i know my clica isn't fast but hey it holds it's own ... and plus mine will start every morning no matter how cold it is... so before bashing on one person for trying to do something fun ... think about why you even are bothered with it ... if your going to worry ... how about making sure they do it right ... you probably wont change thier mind about it but you can probably make sure no one gets hurt.
... the problem is that so many people in the hot rod community are nothing but hard asses ....
Here we go again :rolleyes:
It seems to me that what a lot of people don't get on this and other forums is that the forums are geared to a certain audience. The people who generally hang out here are pretty much into "traditional" hot rods, muscle cars, race cars and customs.
The man asked a question and got several honest responses (which by the way I concur with).
Obliviously, if 68Stang is still determined to do this he should check with other forums that could provide the answer he is looking for (if you read this 68 Stang, I'm not trying to drive you off, you are welcome here, but it appears that most people here just think flamethrowers are a bad idea).
Now you come along, categorize (ATTACK) the regular members of the forum, tell us how we should have responded while making no suggestions of your own on how the guy who asked the original question should do it.
If you stick around here long enough, I think you will find a majority of the regulars are more than willing to provide answers to questions related to the interests of the group, WITHOUT attacking those who we disagree with AS LONG as they are not attacked first.
Ya really want to boil the paint off?:whacked:Quote:
Originally posted by 68Stang
I have a 68 mustang with an aftermarket 302. It has an "H-pipe" exhaust system that has the tailpipes come out in front of the rear wheels. It also has cut-outs that come out below the middle of the doors facing outward, like the rear pipes. Since I usually drive with my cut-outs open, would I be able to put an "afterburn" type flamethrower exhaust system in the cut outs? would it make flames come out all four exhaust exits? is that safe? what if i just want the flames out the cut outs?
I bought my hot rod because I think the diversication is great!
There is so many different tastes out there and they seem to all be excepted.
Flame throwers go Way back.
So do additudes. LOL
I've seen hot rods I would never get behind the wheel of because of poor construction, yet some think their killer.
America is all about freedom of speach but lets not bash or name call a fellow car lover. (import or not)
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Originally posted by rpmrex
Flame throwers go Way back.
So how far back do they go?
I got interested in hot rods in the 50's.
Never saw or heard of a flame thrower exhaust at that time.
I thought flame throwers got popular just a few years ago. Never heard or saw anything about them until the new gone in 60 seconds movie.
Fred Sibley told me he was jacking around with flame throwers back in the 40's.
He is A master with jet cars and lives in the same town as I do in Indiana.
Im sure some one has heard of him.
I'll have to take some pictures of his vintage pictures.
That dude would strap his ass to anything.
Check out some picks here.
http://www.eccentrix.com/members/don...3/sibley3.html
They had flame throwers in the movie Grease with John Travolta and that movie was out in 1978. They had them in Americaan Grafity also.Quote:
Originally posted by Matt167
I thought flame throwers got popular just a few years ago. Never heard or saw anything about them until the new gone in 60 seconds movie.
Im sure they was depitcing cars from the 50's. They were movies about highschool kids in the 50's anyway but I could be wrong.
I seen American Grafity many times, I don't remember any flame throwers. American Grafitiy was based in 1962, as stated in the catch theme " Where were you in '62 ", it was filmed in '73Quote:
Originally posted by rpmrex
They had flame throwers in the movie Grease with John Travolta and that movie was out in 1978. They had them in Americaan Grafity also.
Im sure they was depitcing cars from the 50's. They were movies about highschool kids in the 50's anyway but I could be wrong.
OK,,,I guess I should have said Grease was depitcing the 50's.
Like I said "I could be wrong" (about American Graffity) Though I think you should as I will watch it again.
Either way, the 50's came before the 60's. LOL
I asked my dad how far back he used flame throwers and he said he had them on his 50 something Chevy in 1960.
He used a model T coil.
There are two ways I have seen to make exhuast flames, the one with the fuel injetors just sounds like a horrible idea, but the old style where you use the engine seems safe as the amount of fuel is limited to how long your engine will turn after the ignition is cut, and the rear coil and plugs are powered and the flames don't get very far, the cars that I have see how do this get at the most a foot of flame for 10 seconds because they try to flip the engine ignition back on before the car dies.
Dude hot rodding is about being a rebel. you guys probley all run fiber glass bodys on custom frames. my uncle has a willys pick up on a ford frame back in 1958 and it has flamthorowers off the headers which stick out the hood and has had no problems. i say go for it. But be smart about it. it seems your on the right road asking 1st. just my 1/2 a cent. im edditing this i came off harsh sorry
".....Dude hot rodding is about being a rebel......"
Get a clue DUDE hot rodding is about the cars. :p
PS. REAL hot Rods don't need gimmicks :3dSMILE:
"....Get a clue Dude hot rodding is about the cars..."
You must be new OR dont have a Hot Rod to take to meets!
Its about the cars and the people!
People have cars. Ever meet any hot rodders?
Their all characters and most have cimmicks!
Anyone who doesnt think flame throwers are cool, must have no class,,,,,,,or to much class.:p one or the other.:D
slow-noma....I have a fiberglass '34 on a custom frame and id'e bet you couldn't tell. Either way, im out hot rodding and having a blast.
Anyone who thinks steel cars are the only way to go and the rest aren't real cars is just nuts. Just plain nuts!
To harsh? who cares!
no problem with flame throwers ,there kinda cool, but what your wanting to do is wack :whacked:Check here ,for some reason you get a pro flame thrower response here.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=19054
Speaking of flamethrowers....
Everyone should go out and get a prostate exam...
1 in 3 getting prostate cancer is just wrong.
So go get examined.
And while you are there, ask your proctologist about his feelings on flamethrowers:LOL:
Jeff:toocool:
Note related safety film link here: http://www.videovat.com/videos/267/lighter-fart.aspx
Who cares what your opinion is about throwers. It has nothing to do with this post. He's asking if it's safe and if it would go out all four pipes.
As far as safety... yes they are safe IF you know what you're doing and use a little common sense. (the drive through at your local McBurger probably not a good idea)
And for how it will exit the pipes... that's all in how you rig it up. If it's injected, you would probably need an injector in every pipe you want flaming. If you go old school, you might get a little out of the rear pipes, but I think most of the fuel would be burned up by the first set of throwers in the cutouts.
Welcome to the club 68stang. Don't be discouraged by the replies to this post. Most of us here are very helpful.
if you want some help with your throwers, try this guy www.cjhacker.com He's a personal friend of mine and has won many thrower contests. He likes to do things the traditional way though, so don't bring up injection unless you want to get lectured about them.
Good luck
Oz
Hey Mike, I agree with you..... Guess we must be getting old, huh???? I still go to car shows to see the cars, too. If I wanna see a bunch of clowns, I'd go to the circus!!!!
It wont help your paint job, if u notice on my buddys truck. He is in Indiana too.