Thread: "Faux" (fake) four-speed on a TH400

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Has anybody built or seen a bench seat, auto, floor shift done up to look like a 4-speed (when it is actually an automatic) ?

I have a useless clutch pedal, and a floor mount B&M shifter that I am not totally comfortable with. I've checked out lokar and a few others but the problem I run into is mating the shifter I want ("double bend" 4-sp) with the mechanism underneath.

I've seen this done somewhere before and I can't remember where.

Comments and ideas welcome.

i'm building a 56 210 right now. it will have a 200r4. 66 firebird buckets with a 66 nova ss 4 speed console. i'll use a mr gasket detent shifter that has a cable and is floor mounted. will have the white 4 speed knob.

Originally Posted by shine

i'm building a 56 210 right now. it will have a 200r4. 66 firebird buckets with a 66 nova ss 4 speed console. i'll use a mr gasket detent shifter that has a cable and is floor mounted. will have the white 4 speed knob.

I'll check out the shifter. If you have any pictures (or get any in the future) I'd love to see them.

Thanks for the input

you using this one?

shifter

My Dad had a huge hurst mopar pistol grip lever welded to a B&M z gate under the boot in his t bucket. Everyone thought it was a standard at first glance, he didn't have the faux clutch pedal though.

Unless you want to shift it yourself.. you could start out with a Lokar floor shifter, then get the 4spd shifter that you want, mod and use it's arm in the lokar shifter.. hide it under a Hurst 4spd shift boot.. noone will know unless they watch you shift it

Fake 4 speed? but why?

Originally Posted by willowbilly3

Fake 4 speed? but why?

Exactly! WHY?

If you need to shift - then install a manual.

When I was a young punk - loved to rip through the gears but with age came the realization that an automatic makes driving while holding your beer easier!

But honestly I think an automatic on the column - is still better than anything "fake".

Originally Posted by GulfCoastGasser

....If you need to shift - then install a manual....

But honestly I think an automatic on the column - is still better than anything "fake".

I dont need to shift. Just dont like the appearance of what I have.

And I dont want to change the column...for now

Originally Posted by 65cayne

That's where the problem is. The lokar auto sticks all have this button in the shift knob for the lockout features.

Not true.....Look HERE

Originally Posted by Matt167

Unless you want to shift it yourself.. you could start out with a Lokar floor shifter, then get the 4spd shifter that you want, mod and use it's arm in the lokar shifter.. hide it under a Hurst 4spd shift boot.. noone will know unless they watch you shift it

That's where the problem is. The lokar auto sticks all have this button in the shift knob for the lockout features. I assume there is a cable or something that runs down the tube where as the standard shift levers are solid.

And to those asking "why?"......I say "why not?".....I dont want to buy/change the column...I dont want to pull the tranny and install a REAL four speed, and currently, I dont like the looks of my floor shifter. It's fairly simple really...

Originally Posted by 65cayne

That's where the problem is. The lokar auto sticks all have this button in the shift knob for the lockout features. I assume there is a cable or something that runs down the tube where as the standard shift levers are solid.

And to those asking "why?"......I say "why not?".....I dont want to buy/change the column...I dont want to pull the tranny and install a REAL four speed, and currently, I dont like the looks of my floor shifter. It's fairly simple really...

I think Hurst/Mr. gasket used to have shifters that looked similar to a 4 speed. I can see you wanting a shifter without a button. I don't understand fake stuff tho. That was more what I saw in the topic. Kinda like the Olds valve covers on a chevy thing.

i'm building this car for a customer. but the main reason is looks. the auto console in 66 was butt ugly so i'm going to use the 4 speed console which looks better. the owner wants a 60's hotrod look . the mr gasket is a cable shifter and mounts to the floor.

Originally Posted by 65cayne

That's where the problem is. The lokar auto sticks all have this button in the shift knob for the lockout features. I assume there is a cable or something that runs down the tube where as the standard shift levers are solid.

Get the lokar shifter with the single bend, then add a 4spd knob, and hide it under a Hurst shift boot. it won't look exactly correct, but it will look close.

theres a guy here with a t-350 in a tbucket with a hurst 4 speed stick as the shifter want me to get some tech notes?