any use HOK Marbleized paint

HotRodPaint or anyone else ...
I am completely rebuilding the interior in Shirley's Mustang and I want to do something different with the current wood dash and the whole new console. I had thought of carbon fiber coating but getting into all of the gauge recesses, curves and corners might be difficult. I saw a picture of some interior pieces someone had done in HOK marbleizing and it looked pretty cool.
HRP, have use done anything with this paint? how difficult is it to use? Any procedures you can share? This what it did look like.

thanks,
John

Actually it's very easy. I would advise you try a test panel first. and try different patterns. I like to stretch the cellophane diagonally, which gives a more directional flow to the pattern

Tips:
If you are using cellophane, have the pieces torn and ready.

Spray it somewhat "wet".

Work quickly, before the marblizer starts to dry.

Drop the cellophane over the paint, and move it around until the pattern looks satisfactory.

don't "overwork" the pattern. or you end up with a more confused or jumbled pattern.

If you don't like it, give it a quick spray to rewet, grab a new piece of cellophane, and go again.

If it still does not look the way you like, wash with mineral spirits to remove the marblizer...let it dry....and start over.

Allow plenty of dry time, then clear coat.

HRP

Thanks for the info. What kind of prep is there to use it on wood as apposed to metal?

John

Obviously you need to attend to the adhesion.

If it's real wood, and you want to keep the wood as a background, I would degrease it, sand, then spray a coat of Dupont 222S clear adhesion promoter, then a midcoat clear 30 minutes later. Let it dry overnight and proceed.

If you want a color instead of the wood, use a color coat instead of clear.

You might be able to skip the 222S, but I like to be sure!

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Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT

If it's real wood, and you want to keep the wood as a background..... I would degrease it, then spray a coat of Dupont 222S clear adhesion promoter, then a midcoat clear 30 minutes later. Let it dry overnight and proceed.

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Now that is an interesting thought-- it is real wood-- but what do you think it would look like using the woodgrain and color as a background?
I guess I was thinking of using the body color, bright red, as the background?

The marblizer shows up best on a darker background, but you could try it on a similar piece of wood, to see if it is something you and your wife like.

I edited the last post, so you might reread it.

BTW, Did you see the blown Willys I flamed in my picture gallery? :-) It could be the cousin to yours.

this one?

It is gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!

Somehow I sensed you would like it. I'm psychic! LOL! :-)~ (blown 572 Chevy power)

One the blue Willys paint, he wanted to be able to run without the hood, and not have the flames look "chopped off, so we did kind of a "floating flame" on the sides.

You painters are a special breed. I often wonder how your minds work. When we had the willy's done we thouhgt we wanted ghost flames and the painter told us we wouldn't be happy with them. You guys must the see cars already done in your head.:confused:

I have elements that I like to see in a paint job....like contrast, flow, era correctness, Paint that fits the car's personality, enough detail and colors, and a "twist" of imagination or a unique touch.... and I use those as a guide.

I have to let go of those values when the owner has different ideas. If I have a weakness, it is that I tend to think about 5-10 years ahead of the trends, and it is hard to find "adventurous" builders to victimize with unusual effects or themes.

This scheme was similar to several pictures the owner brought me, though I won't copy one directly.....just do a version that is "inspired by...."

AS far as how our minds work......it's from inhaling too many paint fumes. :-)~

:LOL: Maybe I need to inhale more fumes. My ideas are not that good.

Jyardgirl, I would not advise it! :-) Some of the paint products out there today can mess ya up!

As far as having ideas, most people know what they like and don't like. My customers often tell me they are not artistic, but you can be sure they always know if they like something or not. They just don't have the ability to visualize things, or don't have the experience to sucessfully adapt ideas to their own car.

I have seen an increase in the number of people that I am doing concept drawings for, that have paint and body skills. That tells me they are willing to bring in another pair of eyes, or fill in the gaps in their own abilities, or that they want to see where the car is going, before they start putting paint on it.

I have an old customer who I have done several projects for. He can paint it himself, but he retired and moved out of the country. Since he can't find a local artist to help him, he is having me do drawings, then make flame patterns for him to transfer to the car.

Another guy in Nevada is having me help with a paint design he will do himself. He is a talented painter, and has done graphics, but they lack a little refinement. I am just taking his input and helping to step it up.

I guess my point is that you can find a way to get the result you want, even without giving up your own hands-on involvement.

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Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT

As far as having ideas, most people know what they like and don't like. They just don't have the ability to visualize things,

I guess my point is that you can find a way to get the result you want, even without giving up your own hands-on involvement.

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something else I have found that most true artists tend toward modesty.

I know what I like but it is usually after the fact. As far a paint schemes go I think I know what I want because I take what I've seen on other cars and try to project them onto mine. I have done that many times over the years and have had some real failures.

Take this marbleizing I want to do to the dash. I've seen it done on other pieces and it catches my eye but whether it will look good in Shirley's car is just a chance I take.

We've all seen things as car shows and shake our heads and say why?
How often have we heard it said "build what you llike". But the fact is that most of us don't keep our cars more than a few years, so in essence shouldn't we build them for someone else's tastes.

I agree on a couple points.

Some things Seem to work better on one car than another.

I personally think the marblized parts will look good. If you are worried, try that test panel idea, with the red...and the wood. That way you can get them inside the car to see if you like it. If you are worried, go conservative, and do it over a black base to match the interior.

I have a theory.....too many of them actually.....but if people ask "why?", you messed up badly in your planning stage. :-( Ideally you want them to say "that is perfect!"

I have a good story about "building for yourself". I did a theme-scheme on a late model Vette. (It's in my picture gal;lery) The owner wanted pirate skulls, so I did the right thing and told him he was ruining the resale value of the car. He didn't care, so we went ahead with it. Last Saturday he told me he now has won 17 show trophies in the last couple years....many for best paint. He is thrilled! I asked him if anyone offered to buy the car? He said "No....but it isn't for sale anyway!" This story doesn't prove anything, but I thought it was a good story. LOL! :-)!

Actually many people I meet have resale value in mind as they are building. Financially smart....but not nearly as much fun. One thing I believe in is to use "value colors or themes" when building, and people will see it as being more special. That helps a lot when people are admiring your project...or they are writing that check.

The whole top of my dragster was marbleized, from nose to cage. It is a really neat and uncommon paint scheme to see.

Sorry I could not resist the Hooters picture.

The picture makes it almost look like snake skin. Is that an accurate description?

Maybe skin is a "Freudian" thing the mind does from looking at the last picture too long.

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Originally Posted by 41willys

The picture makes it almost look like snake skin. Is that an accurate description?

Maybe skin is a "Freudian" thing the mind does from looking at the last picture too long.

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YA WHAT HE SAID ! Sorry what was the question again? Oh ya snake skin, thats it.

Nice girls.....er.....car! :-)~

Sorry Mooneye, I don't see a car in that hooters pic. LOL



Nah, Looks great.

I finally got the marbleizing done to Shirley's dash parts.
What do you think?

By the way did you know that HOK is discontinuing its urethane line. Kosmos Red and Brilliant White are now hard to find.

it looks GREAT man... i think it turned out really nice