in my moms house there still is a 4 foot by 6 foot over 6 feet deep horn under the front door crawl space dad built it would re start or stop your heart :D. that face in to moms sunk in living room that had a big somofabitch crown driver in it that was getting push from a old tube amp .with the altec lasings jamed under the iron hand rail and some custome made AMT ESS towers on one chanle getting push from one of the phase linears . are job was to hold my moms glass ware from jumping off the shelfs it was on .to say this rock was a under statement:D sounds like your stuff was for band 1gary we just had a radio :) in the house but it sounded the best in the front yard with the windows and doors shut. falconvan sorry of get off track. i did not meen to take any thing away from your post ... just some old memeories when i was young with abit better hearing .but it was fun:3dSMILE: