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Just looking through the sub forums, suspention, engine talk etc and thought there could be a fabrication section. a place to ask/answer questions ideas on all types of fab work steel 'glass different welding finishing techniques etc.
Just an idea, i posted it here so all youse can give an opinion and the moderators can check out the responses.
If there is one or similar somewhere then the sun is in my eyes!:eek:
Sounds like this section...Quote:
Originally Posted by spikeo
http://www.clubhotrod.com/forums/hot...lding-car.html
well yes and no what if your not building a car ?
i see your point but all the shop talk/ sub forums can be pinned to that also, such as the Suspension Setup, Paint Tech etc.
Just thought it would make it easier for other members to narrow down if they were after ideas or tips on fabrication, welding even fibreglassing etc. It could maybe include designs and tips on different jigs, body rotisseries...
Im just throwin the idea out there
that post was more for pro i think a fab section would be good on how to do it and talk over ways of going at it . i still fix and make things for guys but i do not build cars any more. so i never post or look to much at the car building section .so some guys may like that i keep my nose out of them post
I probably abuse the thread a little. I've been known to post tool building & other projects there mostly because I was too lazy to start another thread. :LOL::LOL:
i personally would love a fabricating section. after i get the monte back on the road i am really interested in starting to work with fiberglass forming.
every time i think of glass or carbon fiber.smc i... ITCH i use to point my 8inch sander at the two vett pros:rolleyes: at the shop i work at that never did any SMC or glass work :mad: when i work on the seim hoods... i would shoot rooster tails of ground glass torwards were they work just to get them in the mood:DQuote:
Originally Posted by jyardgirl
pat i think that you have a mean streak :3dSMILE:
well i never thought that way . i way thought of me has very giving even if they did not want it:whacked:Quote:
Originally Posted by jyardgirl
Fab section would be nice, long as CHR doesn't end up all snotty like so many other forums and you end up with a bunch of self-appointed posting cops who spend most of their time telling others they posted their stuff in the wrong section!!!! Also, I'm reminded of the guy not too long ago who insisted on a separate upholstery section, got one opened, hung out a couple weeks but hasn't returned since....
Guess I'm like Pro Z, maybe it's not "correct" but if it kinda relates to the thread I'm reading I'll throw most anything in there! Fab section might be good as long as it doesn't take away from the family of friends atmosphere on CHR and turn it inot just another forum.....
I have been guilty of that.:HMMM: I just thought fabrication is such a big part of our passion that a seperate section could accomodate that. Im not going to say what should go where-that is why i like this forum its pretty easy going and most of the posts ive read are friendly-even when we dont agree!:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
Im a sheetmetal fabricator by trade but love playing with fibreglass so id consider all of these to come under fabrication-i often use mdf as well so why not throw that in, and...**)
Anything someone has made can go in there- home made tools, jigs, wife proof shed:rolleyes:
It doesn't seem to me that people have been holding back on posting about fabrication (or anything :LOL:) for lack of a specific and dedicated sub-forum on their subject. Like you say Spikeo, fabrication is such a part the process it tends to weave through many of the threads, and mostly in individual build threads. One of the problems with more sections is that people break up their build thread to talk about different parts of the build in different places and you lose continuity. I guess for me adding more sections with titles doesn't add value, it just adds more titles and maybe confusion. The search engine is your friend for finding things anyway, right?
Yeah thats true i was just thinkin 'bout it and made the suggestion. I know what you mean though fab can be brought up in most other subjects on here. I love making things thats why i love this hobby so i mite be a bit biased!:pQuote:
Originally Posted by rspears
I have enjoyed the continuing in one place build threads, altho I might be looking at them from a different angle as I am 70 years old and have been doing that stuff for 2 centuries now!!!!!!How,ever , having said that, I am always showing someone how to do something, and can get miffed when I later find that they went and did something that I specificly thold them not to do!!!!!!Then, I am of the mind that they wasted my time!!!!
As for getting sidetracked on a thread, I probably enter a question about how the weather is in Mi or SD for Pat and Dave(I know what the wx is in CC--Pro28) sort of like a conversation might go if I was actually standing there talking to the poster!!
I think a forum can get to the point of so many sub sections that it is hard to follow along on a build.I do not chase a O/P on a build on multi threads.The forums that deal with metal fab's have been ref'ed a number of times here.Many of the threads are a "how to" just by the nature of the builds that are done here on older rods.So my two cents is that would mean a sub section for metal fab would end up being projects not having much to do with the older rods and topics that as I said we have left ref's for sites better suited for threads like that.If anyone wants to invite Dutch Comstock to this site,I think that would be a asset.
I am not a stuctured person and operate much better without specific threads for specific items. Having said that, i can see a benefit if there were a 'how to' tech thread as opposed to a fabrication or a build thread. That type of thread could have documeted tech pieces from building a stromberg 97 to butt welding sheetmetal panels or making frame rails and suspension design. Let it become a referance source or a library, maybe we could get some old geezers like Jerry or curmudgeons like Pat to part with some of thier hardwon knowledge and donate an article or two!
Going to chime in again.Thing is the search functions provide info on topics asked and answer in threads posted by the O/P.At that point that the experienced members add info for the benefit of all members current or to join the site in the future........I sure would hate to think all that hard work for a archive is wasted because people don't ref that info.God for bid something was to happen to our older members(yep me included) and the knowledge was lost forever because people didn't do a search for it in the posted threads.I also think to ask members to create a section of knowledge for the sole sake of a teaching mode when it is there in the threads is a imposition on those members.My point is to post those helping answers at times takes some work already.
I think the basic working knowledge of how a forum works allows for new members and current ones to use a search first and then if some clarification is needed post a question saying this is what I have found so far.Honestly,I am as guilty as the next person not doing that first.But on the back of my mind I know that is truly one way of showing respect to the history of the site and the members who's hard work have contributed so much to the site.
My two cents worth is you can only cover so many topics effectively and then it starts to come apart because of build question being too scatter in too many threads not connecting to each other.That it is far,far,better to have a continuous build thread covering each question one step at a time in one thread.That the kind of work done here more than covers topics all kinds of fab work in the build threads.
Gezzzzzzzz-I learned somthin.Jerry is 70 yrs old.Didn't know that.Or did I read that one wrong again??.Almost seems I met him yrs ago but I can't place it.Maybe at Norwalk or London.Hummmm???.
Great idea. we all need some info on fabrication some time or another.
There was some politics happening between Metalmeet.com and Allmetalshaping.com in a board war.If you read pass the first sections of that,you find threads with very talented fabricators.One stand out is Dutch Comstock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evolvo
Jerilyn, is that you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeri
What I see is .....you are building a hot rod/ truck/ muscle car......so you are fabricating!!
Fabrication covers everything you are doing.
Heck Jerry Clayton; I thought I was the only one that got pissed and thought I had wasted my time when I had gone in to fine detail on how to do something.
Then they turn right around and do exactly what I had said not to do. Like the time I was doing a cam on a freinds 318.
We had the intake off and the front of the motor off all ready to pull the cam and I had to take a restroom break.
I told my buddy don't touch anything I'll be right back, I come back and he is standing there with the cam shaft in his hand.
Guess where all the lifters were!!!! RRRRRRR After another hour of trying to fish the lifter out of the oil pan we were ready to start installing the new cam and lifters.
Kurt
LMAO! Isn't is nice when people don't listen. He must have pulled it fast, or had ear plugs in.
Sorry for laughing. I'm sure it wasn't funny when you had to go back to the bathroom.
I'm going with Sunsetdart on this. Been on forums (briefly) with everything so neatly sectionalized---then you end up with a bunch of voluntary "forum cops" who's main reply's are that "this should be in that forum" and a legitimate post just gets swallowed up with posters trying to decide where the post really belongs---and the OP's questions or concerns go unanswered! The new build forum works great to follow someone's progress and ask questions about their methods or materials used. Most everything on the site concerns fabricating of one sort or another.
Not long ago someone demanded a new forum just for upholstery and how to do it...we get some very nice pictures and good advice on their from a couple of the pro shops but little else. My concern with a fabrication forum is that it would detract from the build threads and scatter the information all over the site and make the individual builds harder to follow. Using either the search function, or asking if someone rembers a particular fabrication that was posted here in the past will usually yield all the fab information anyone could want.
Spikeo, I think you're on to something. There are a lot of skills involved with a build, and many of them would fall under the heading of Fabrication. I can see some step-by-step posts where someone documents every step of a process, and explains the challenges they faced and how they overcame them. Possibly a "training post" on shrinking metal, or TIG welding, or on creating a replica part when the original is no longer available. Someone has a question about different "consumer grade" welders...get some feedback from users of them. Curious about an english wheel? Check out the thread that details a simple project with one. This section could be quite informative, and a place to post questions when something isn't working out like it is supposed to...someone with experience can lend some advice. You've got my vote!
Well,I look at all thesections in this forum now,,and think,that is enough..Its a well structured board,and do we really need another section??I enjoy the fabrication that goes on in hot rod talk,build threads,shop talk,,etc,,and the banter in the middle..Keep it as it is..and yes,,I had a feeling Jerry Clayton was an ''older'' member,what with his drag racing exploits,and other claims to fame,,;)couldnt be much younger..:cool::cool:
The problem with having too many sub forums is that it makes it harder to administrate.
Besides, where would it stop?
A sub forum for metal fabrication
A sub forum for plastic fabrication
A sub forum for carbon fiber fabrication
A sub forum for fiberglass fabrication
A sub forum for aluminum fabrication
A sub forum for boran steel fabrication
A sub forum for carbon steel fabrication
And so on and so forth..........
As for having snobby people saying "you posted in the wrong forum", most certainly not here.
Just my two cents worth (as they guy who most of the time moves the posts posted in the wrong forums to the proper ones and nobody ever notices :D ).
Bill S.
Then that person got upset because I would not let him solicit business on CHR and left. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
Bill S.
Kinda figured that might have been the reason....Thanks Bill.