Cheap vapor ?
Ok, found some. Never heard of them.
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Cheap vapor ?
Ok, found some. Never heard of them.
I haven't yet priced what the wax & greese cleaner, reducer, epoxy primer, reducer, mixing containers, filter/strainer and the topcoat color etc.
Verse's what everything needed for spray can system would cost ?
Plus the cost of everything needed for a 4ml plastic roll, wood or pvc structure paint booth ?
Kevin, welcome to the part of hot rodding we all eventually come too, either suffer and buy the tools, which now you have and MUST build other vehicles to justify having such tools or farm it out and suffer paying somebodies labor bill, I think most of us on here have chose the first choice, Please don't ask our wives if we made the right choice. At this point in our lives we are just lucky that there is not a hot rodders wife or hot rodders girlfriends forum where they all could collaborate against us and find we are share similar possibly undesireable traits (to them at least) My advice is, do whatever you consider FUN!
Lol,....that's what hobbies and toys are all about, but this time, our budjet is tight after all my health bills, medications etc.
We generaly don't make money on hobbies or especially with our toyz. We raced dirt winged sprint cars for years, if anyone expects to make money with weekend racing, run, run away and find cash somewhere else.
If times were better today like 10 (+) years ago, no problem, but now we need to save dimes. After almost dying twice with "Septic Blood" infection, my "MedFlight" jet flight to the Mayo Clinic was $17,000. With my 26 day in their hospital clinic was $62,000 (if I'm remembering now) and my 13 twice per day medications for nearly all my organs are very expensive per month. The great work insurance my wife had for 25 years, the company sold out to a money crazed family, they dropped it and replaced with Blue Cross & Shield.
Anyway, that's why we needto be careful with money. $200 now is a lot of money. My health care and meds, along with loosing $10,000 to my engine builder 10 years ago, we're just now getting back into a fairly,.....normal life. Trying to gain back my "spirit of life" partly, with getting the Cobra back driving and enjoying again !
(No matter how hard you have it, never give up in life)
I'm glad to hear you're on the up side of the battle there. I have Blue cross & shield and can definitely agree that $200 is a lot of money for sure. Losing any money sucks. Been there and have dip sticks that owe me still. Some people. :LOL:
A lot of people have no respect and heart, but at least my dip stick is trying. Hope yours will too !
How many rattle cans of primer and top coat would cover a big block, steel bell and Tremec trans ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jerry clayton
I'm sure at least two cans of primer and maybe,....three top coats ?
I once painted an engine and transmission with an air brush. There was no nook or cranny which wasn't perfect, but wow how long it took!
I've painted several 5.9 cummins engines and I usually use 2 cans of primer and 3 to 4 of paint depending how nice you want it. :LOL: So you might be looking at 4 to 6 cans of paint?Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Lol !!!!!! Laughed my ass off buddy !Quote:
Originally Posted by firebird77clone
I figured 3 to 4 cans of epoxy primer and the same for the top coat. The VHT prices are from $10 to $13 per can.Quote:
Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe
So, I think I'll do it right and buy a gun.
After more research, I may try this company for the paint and maybe,.....their 3 gun kit. I don't need a expensive gun for painting the block, bell, tranny and small jobs around the house.
3 GUN MASTER SPRAY GUN SET WITH 3 CUPS ALL ACCESSORIES
Or spend a little more for a better brand that I know from the,....old days.
https://www.eastwood.com/devilbiss-a...up-system.html
(Hush,....don't tell my Cobra this is Viper blue)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/38153617507...&ul_noapp=true
I'll offer that you don't need the VHT paint for your engine & tranny. A good quality primer and compatible top coat will serve you well at half (or less) the cost of the VHT coatings. There're lots of engines painted with epoxy primer & base coat, clear coat or single stage running around. The difference is that rattle can paint is reduced more to flow through that tiny orifice, making it harder to control runs and sags.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
I'm confused. Which do you mean, use a paint gun to shoot normal primer and top coat or use any lower cost rattle can brand ?
If you choose to use rattle cans, you do not need to pay for high temp coatings good for up to 2000F. You can buy Rustoleum Engine Paint for $4 a can and it will do just fine - https://www.zoro.com/rust-oleum-engi...oPhg&gclsrc=dsQuote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Ok, I was thinking about it this morning, and I agree with you. If I were painting a turbo, it would be a different story.
Check this deal out.
Devilbiss Auto Paint and Touch-Up System
$160
https://www.eastwood.com/devilbiss-a...up-system.html
DeVilbiss® Paint & Touch-Up System includes a full-size HVLP spray gun and mini detail spray gun.
Large HVLP Gun for spraying top coats, primers and heavier materials
Mini Spray Gun for detail work
3 Tips, 2 Cups, Regulator and Tool Kit
Here's a handy kit from a brand you know and trust, to handle all your big and small automotive painting jobs, easily and professionally.
More info...
ABOUT DEVILBISS AUTO PAINT AND TOUCH-UP SYSTEM
Take on any big automotive painting job with this 2-gun DeVilbiss® Kit that includes a large HVLP Gun for top coats, primers and sprayable body fillers (includes 1.8mm and 1.3mm tips), and one Mini Spray Gun for detail work (1.0mm fluid tip). Air inlet for both: 1/4" NPS. Also includes 2 aluminum paint cups (600cc and 130cc), gun-mounted air regulator, and cleaning and adjustment tools. One-year mfr's. warranty. Gun rebuild kits available; see "Accessories" tab.
CONTENTS
Large HVLP Gun for top coats, primers, and heavier materials
Mini Spray Gun for touch-up and detail work
3 Tips, 2 Cups, Regulator, Tool Kit and Storage/Carry Case
http://www.clubhotrod.com/photopost/data/500/p12505.jpg
I understand we're talking hobby here, and having fun where you can, but you've told us how tight money is, and you've made it clear that you're only going to be painting your engine, tranny, and bellhousing plus some small parts along the way. Does it really make sense to spend $160 on a gun, and then have to spend more $$$ to get your air supply OK with piping & filters, quick connects, and on, and on? Once that's all done you've now got to buy epoxy primer and single stage color, plus thinner, filters, and all of the associated "stuff" to do the job. I would be looking at rattle can colors to find something that I could live with. I'd bet that before you're done you'll invest $300 to $400 when you could get it done for $75 to $100. If you were doing a show car it would be different, but your path doesn't make sense to me, and with that I won't bother you further.
Roger, "bother you futher" take it easy. lol geez.....
I did not mention that today a guy finally,...paid me for a job I did for him, so I'm taking that money and paint the parts the right way.
A neighbor is a plumber and gave me some pipe and can get what ever else I need to plumb the garage. He said having just a small garage with one line, I don't need much. When I figure out which dyer I want he can get it, unless I choose one from a box store and buy it there. I'm not giving up on the rattle can completly yet, but I can buy a blue color paint that is very close match to mine. I can't with a rattle paint. So don't give up on me buddy, just trying to do it right,.... as much as I can anyway.
My local auto paint shop can mix whatever color you want and put it in a spray bomb, maybe a paint shop local to you can do the same? I'd ask around.
I do have a clutch fork that is painted my body color. Good idea.
What is a spray bomb ?
A rattle can.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Yep, did a search.
Thanks
rspears, I checked out your hot rod photo's, is one or more yours ?
I'll call my local paint supplier for the bombs and take along my painter fork to match. I've checked out a lot,....of rattle can paint, and nothing close enough to match. If I were going with a different color or even use one of the Ford blue, rattle cans would be fine.
Anyway, what do I need to ask and look out for, from my autobody supplier about the bomb type ?
If that doesn't work for me, what do you think of this company and this product ?
The paint already has the reducer, but add the hardner.
$90
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0V0-002X-000U3
$118
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Viper-Blue-...IAAOSwa-dWsHte
If you're referring to pics in the Gallery, as I recall the only thing there is a bunch of old show pics, and I never use or look at the gallery any more. I have one that's pretty much "done" (are they ever?):Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
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Same car w/ Steelies & '40 Dog Dish caps
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And a project '32 roadster:
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When you visit your local paint shop, simply ask if he can mix up some Viper Blue (take your sample picture) and load it into rattle cans for you. Also buy compatible primer from him, also in rattle cans.
New Egg is an re-seller, gathering products from all over the place and marketing them, kind of like what WalMart is doing these days. You can Google a '32 Ford Tube Axle, and one of the suppliers that pops up is WalMart In-Store Pickup! I would avoid both, and evilBay for paint, too, IMO. Others may disagree. I'd shop the local paint store, so you have an idea of the quality you get.
Real nice 32's, but like you have pictured, I've always prefered the grills of the 33 and 34 I like the old school baby moon's too.
Yes, many companys copy and/re-name products. We're into saltwater reeftanks snd so,.....many comoanys copy very good products then sell for way less, that really have bad internals.
The coupe is a '33/34 N&N glass body car. The roadster is a '32 ShowMe Rod & Custom glass body project.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Do you like having the mini gun, or wish you had bought the other kit with two, of the same guns ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 34_40
https://www.eastwood.com/devilbiss-a...ng-system.html
I have used it for touch up work only. It comes in handy.
How wide is the pattern ?
