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I'm rebuilding a 51 Chevy Sedan Delivery and after some thought have decided to put a Ford 302 engine in it. I got the engine cheap(which was a factor) but I would have spent the money on Chevy otherwise. Everybody I know that has a Chevy hot rod has a 350 in it. Everyone I know that has a Ford hot rod has...a Chevy 350 in it. I'm getting tired of the Chevy in Ford combo and the 350 in general. I need some input... let me have it...most of my friends have
Why not ? I had a freind who put a 302 in one of those little S-10 chevy blazer man that thing went like a bat out of you know what:D
Chevy small blocks are internally balanced, and mid-80's and older small blocks are not. This means the Chevy will run smoother and have longer bearing life than the Ford. Another good reason to go Chevy.
I'd say why not go with it. Back in 75 a buccy and I put a 390 FE Ford in a 72 impala Ken picked up real cheap cause the motor and trans were wasted. Toook a little work and an early FE 4x4 oil pan. Used pull into full service stations and ask the guy to check the oil.
You should have seen him. Hood read Impala and valve covers read Thunderbird. Drove gas stations crazy.
Ken used it to pull his camper.:) :) :) :)
Hello 76GMC1500
I just had this conversation with a customer and we talked about same concerns so thought it may be worth bring up. The + or - standard of each method may have tighter standards in some cases and that would make one better than the other. Just the method an engine is balance in terms of being internal or external does not change accuracy or affect bearing life. The fact an engine has been balanced only asks to what degree of accuracy or tolerance. If internal and external engines are balanced to same spec then they are equally balanced.
I think an internal balance is less likely to get out of spec due to outer inertia ring on balancer slipping on rubber ring or the flywheel being damaged and needing replacement. The down side of average internal balance is larger counterweights creating more windage in stock form. The cost of heavy metal or Mallory is high and requires machining to install if converting balance method. Removing weight to control balance is best but adding weight is often needed. The removal of weight is also best so reciprocating weight is reduced and part of a performance mod anyway.
Yeah, why not a Ford in a chebby?? I see vettestr allready did the correction on balancing Ford engines, so I won't bother. Hey, it's your car, and if you prefer the Ford, then put it in there. Personally, if I had my way everything I build would have Blue Oval Power!!!!!
Anyone every do one of those projects where the get in price was cheap, but by the time you did all the modifications to make your low cost buy fit/work, you ended up with a higher cost end result in both time and money?
I would consider the entire drive train package, eng/trans/rear. If that was a low miles, ready to go deal (like a rolled car) them I think any brand is fair game. But my first choice would be to keep any car brand specific.
Paul
OK what I meant to say is that he may be "ON" something
OK what I meant to say is that he may be "ON" something
hell yea! Do it! I'm sick of seeing chevy power dominating the streets and car shows.
Why Not? I was going to put a ford flattie in my 37 chevy and I'm still thinking about it.
I have to agree with BOB, unless you are nabbing a cheap donor and doing the work yourself. I happen to be replacing my 54 Plydo drivetrain with all Ferd eqipment. ONLY because it was the most cost effective/upgrade within my building abbilities. Otherwise it would have been a Cheby transplant. Plus the lug pattern matches :LOL: thats my one thread of relativity haha.
It's all good, just remember it comes down to counting the cost, not just $.
Ferd in a Chebbie???????? Good thing Wednesday is my therapy night. He hE hE
:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: **)
We can expect this kinda' talk from Dave ............. but now it's gettin' way to pervasive . He HE He
I'd say add to the pole ........... "BIG BLOCK" Chevy .................
PROZ, I knew you need therapy!!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Hey Pro, better get Streets enrolled if that's a group therapy deal you go to.
This is a question for those who have already had therapy. If I build a Cobra body Kit and it is designed to use a Corvette chassis as the donor, and then install an EFI Ford 302 IS THAT OK ??
They kicked me out of the first 2 therapy sessions and I am so confused but still build the Cobray-C3 !!
Sounds like a very good plan to me!!!! Keep going to those therapy sessions, maybe after a few more we can get you to lose the Vette chassis, too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Dave S,
I promise to keep going if they'll let me. What is wrong with the vette chassis? Lets me use factory parts - has IRS rear, 4 wheel disc brakes , great geometry, low C of G and EVERY aftermarket race proven suspension piece is a bolt on at very reasonable price to boot! If you love or hate the vette you have to admit it is a great platform to start with. With exception to the vette power assist steering (that sucks ) it is everything everybody else modifies chassis to have, and no chasing parts from across the pond to get Jag - BMW ETC... donor parts from.
I see you spent a few bucks to hang rack n pinion steering and bags on the lead sled Merc. as a small example of making better suited to your needs. BTW. I think the 49 is very cool and color is perfect.
It's Aroma therapy.....
.....Nitro Fumes
.....Laquer Fumes
.....Welding Fumes
.....Tire Smoke Fumes:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: **)
A different aroma for each session. HE HE he
CoughCoughCoughCoughCoughCoughCoughCoughCoughCoughCoughCoughCough
If the 235 six in my 37 chevy p/u dies it will be ford powered,I am too sick of seeing chevy motors in everything so its time for a payback to the chevy people. since all the other vehicles I own are ford products there is no sense in putting a chevy motor in it,I would have to buy a different oil filter and tune up parts and I dont want to do that.
Good idea! I'd love to see that.:DQuote:
Originally posted by junkyardjeff
If the 235 six in my 37 chevy p/u dies it will be ford powered,I am too sick of seeing chevy motors in everything so its time for a payback to the chevy people. since all the other vehicles I own are ford products there is no sense in putting a chevy motor in it,I would have to buy a different oil filter and tune up parts and I dont want to do that.
Hey Vette, absolutely nothing wrong with the Vette suspension. Just picking at ya about it. If you can get one at a decent price, would definitely be the way to go. I guess I'm just too used to building my own frames. Thanks for the comments on the Merc, I have another one to build this winter.
Careful Dave,
I am a very sensitive kinda guy, you never know when they will find me naked on the roof with a high powered ???? sling shot !
LMAO..
Serious for a few moments. Many people think the vettes are spendy and the collector cars and many vette only parts are. But with production od the 3rd generation vette at over 1/4 MILLION from 68 to 82 there is a bunch of CHEAP cars available. A 76 driver with 100 k miles and showing its years is worth 4 K max and most at about 2500 to 3K. If a project car or a corner banged up its value is say 1k to 1500. at the most.
My Cobray-C3 concept is based on that 1500 $ car. You can then part out the body and wind up with a free donor chassis as unused parts are worth more than purchase price. You need to rebuild that chassis but hell when starting at ZERO cost it makes sense very quick. I sell a Complete race suspension with every item in race dress for 1900 bucks and thats everything.
Hey you guys thinking about Bowtie and Blue Oval swaps, don't forget about the big Cadillacs. Cheap to come by and gobs of torque so you don't need to modify them much to get decent performance. Plus they are lighter than a big block Chevy or Ford. To top it all off you will have a ball with people trying to guess what it is, as long as you don't spoil the fun by putting Cadillac valve covers on it.
Pat
Im generally not a fan of cross breeds...but hey, its your ride, do what you like. John