Thread: Hub to Hub M2 kits

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Seems I recieved good info on the rear suspension, so lets try the front.

I have been researching Hub to Hub kits for mustang 2 suspension install on my 37 chevy coupe.

Most (TCI, Heidt's) all seem pretty close to the same pkg, I am wondering if anyone has used a Jim Weimer Rod Garage kit?

They do not seem to be a big name, and as far as I am concerned, a name is only as good as the product, but true credibility comes from a product that performes.

Their site : JW ROD GARAGE

Quick suggestion. If you put the www. in front of the site name you put up it will create a hot link so folks won't have to do a cut and paste.

There are a lot of good suspension packages besides Heidt's and TCI. I used to be a dealer for Heidt's, till I found other companies making equal or better packages for a lot less money. I do like the Heidt's for open wheel cars cuz they offer everything either chromed or polished but for a fendered car, paying a couple hundred extra for the name just doesn't do it for me....

I've been looking at Heidt's Deluxe MII kit (not the Superide). I want some shine under my fat fenders, but I don't need everything shiney. The Heidt's Deluxe MII is less than $1800 with chrome coilovers. That is the same as JW Rod Garage and with Heidt's you get a good name and customer service. I haven't heard of JW Rod Garage though...

I started out looking at the Speedway kit when I came across it for ~$1600 (tubular control arms, chrome coilovers,etc.), but a few of the parts are rebuilt and for not much less why not go for a name more commonly used that specializes in IFS? That was my reasoning...

I will look at the Heidts delux kit......and Uncle Bob, thanks for the tip....we are always learnin' around here !!

Well, many companies specialize in IFS. I have nothing against Heaidts, still use them on some projects... I guess on a one time purchase $100 bucks isn't that big of a deal.... Having installed many types, I've just found certain things about all of the kits that I like and don't like.. This one comes with QA-1 coilovers, powdercoated arms..... All comes down to what you are looking for, I guess.

Dave, is this a heidts kit in the photo?

Mine came from Progressive automotive out of Baltimore Ohio. Been very pleased with it and it's been under the car for about 18 years. They have more options today than then and prices are reasonable with good customer support. Mine doesn't have a lick of shiny stuff on it, but then again you can't see it tucked under those big fenders anyway.

Here's a link to Heidt's site; Mustang II Crossmembers

Not pushing Heidt's per se, but admittedly I tend to their product. One reason is the finish quality of their welds. Another is a small issue from a performance/functionality point of view, but IMO speaks to the overall quality and that's the upper shock mount cup. I like the look of the stamped "cone" rather than a fabbad cup that looks something like a piece of pipe with a plug in the end. Just suits my sense of esthetics better. Lastly, and this could be argued too, I like that Heidt's spindle is steel rather than cast. In most of these apps the cast probably lasts as well and as long as most hot rods require. Again, it's a personal choice thing for the more durable steel, to me.

Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

Here's a link to Heidt's site; Mustang II Crossmembers

I like that Heidt's spindle is steel rather than cast. In most of these apps the cast probably lasts as well and as long as most hot rods require. Again, it's a personal choice thing for the more durable steel, to me.

I believe you helped me too.

Bob, the payment is in the mail errr...it's coming .

The big reason I like to ask others what works/fits is due mainly to my inexperience. I realize every car goes together different...maybe it's just nice to hear I'm on the right track after asking or maybe I'm trying to copy .

I want as wide of rear tires as I can fit, but again due to inexperience I tend to shy away from doing exactly what I want and settle for something that will be easy/cost effective for me to accomplish. Example, the 275 rear tires I have sitting around would look great on this car, but they won't fit w/o heavy modification so I settle for a narrower tire...narrowing a rear doesn't seem cost effective for me. I would tend to see what I can get and chose a wheel/tire combo to fit that. I'm not real sure how to measure for a rear width/tire/wheel backspacing either. Also, are those wheels 16"? That look and stance is more or less what I'm after...

As for the front...I will be at 56 1/2" plus 11" rotors (which I understand as well is an extra 5/8" x 2). I don't see myself not using the rotors that will come with my kit so other than gaining 2" from narrowed control arms I will likely run a tire that will fit where I'm at there. I guess the way I figure it is if others get by with that set up with narrow tires I can too...just just want to make it through this build alive and not get too crazy with this

I know I was told before the rear of the frame should be okay, but the shop reccommends partially boxing the rear as well so I want to be well imformed before I refuse. I do plan to replace the center of the X so that should help there. Did you say that was the stock rear crossmemeber...is that suffiecient for the shock mounts?

Nope, not a Heidt's, but it is a forged spindle and the powdercoated control arms are just like they come out of the box. As Bob said, that may or may not even be a consideration. I've never broken, cracked, or otherwise damaged either type of spindle.... As for the upper coil over mount, yeah, it could be a stamped cone shape. But I gotta ask if that alone is worthy $100 or so bucks more? Good point Bob, just not sure how many customers would pay the extra $$$ to get a couple Heidt's decals on the control arms...that they have to scrape off when they paint anyhow.......

Thanks....I am still mulling over using a coil-over front end kit vs. the std coil/shock frt end .....have heard that they can be ride height adjusted where a std front end would only have the drop from 2"drop spindles.....decisions....decisions !!!!...

a question about the components used. Could you use stock M2 spindles,ball joints, brake calipers, rack, tie rod ends, control arm bushings etc. and just buy a set of bare tubular a-arms and coilovers and save a pile of money. Just fab up the mounts. All of the components look to be stock, exept the mounts and a-arms.

...I don't know....sounds likely, but I will be needing crossmember,A-arms, 2'' drop spindles, and then go and get everything else gathered up. you are probably correct, but to have it all in a pkg and with support from the mfgr if (when) I have questions is probably worth the added expense.