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i was just wondering where have you guys mounted your tranny coolers? mine is currently in the truck with a fan and a hole cut underneath but i guess its not working seeing as no "fresh" air is getting in. i thought about putting the fan on the bottom of it and sucking air in from under the car but then u get the exhaust fumes. i thought about the wheel well but then i dont know about rocks? then it hought the floor pan at an angle but im just not sure. where have you guys put yours???
I guess the most common location is right in front of the radiator, using those plastic push pins with caps on the end. But anywhere you can get some airflow would probably be ok.
I've seen those ones with the fans built in, and they must be very efficient because of the air being forced through them. They are a little on the pricey side from what I have seen, though.
We are trying one of the cylindrical ones that mount to a framerail on my Kids '29. It is a double pass version, which is supposed to have some extra cooling properties to it. Haven't fired up the car yet, so don't know if they work.
On the T I thinkk I am going to mount one of the cylindrical ones up front right under the crank pulley. It should get some good air flow there I hope.
Don
i have a cooler in front of the rad but am looking at a different add on. i am looking at a tube 3/4 to 1 in or more in diameter that would neck down at both ends and be approx 3 ft long or more to run along the frame adding great cooling area as the flow is slowed greatly plus also extra capacity. basicly a hyd seperate resivoir. i was also looking at a alum 2 gallon resivoir that would sit in front of the rad shell(look like the old fuel injection tank)
i have noticed on my car at the strip a couple quick passes and loading the trans at the lights it heats fast and one can tell the differece in the way it shifts.
a super deep pan would also do the same thing any capacity helps the cooling syst.
for a air cooler it has to be in the wind somewhere to work properly.
i have seen sone guys bodge together a small car rad fan and a big tranny cooler to move air in tight areas i suspect they work good.
just my 2 cents
doesnt having it smack dab int he middle of your radiator make the car run warmer? guy with a cuda did that put it right in the middle car started overheating. i was wondering how those allum. finned ones work. i bought a b&m super cooler pt# 70266. it basically the same size as the last one minus the fan. my old one had a fan in the trunk with a hole cut under it and it still ran to warm.
Scooter,
If there's only one hole in the trunk, the fan won't do much good. You need somewhere for the hot air to exit, as well as the cool air to enter. If you have the right size radiator and a good fan, mounting it in front of the radiator should still work. Remember, most trans coolers are build into the radiator anyhow.
I just installed one of the finned aluminum cylindrical double pass units yesterday. I have it on the outside frame rail along side the transmission. I have not driven the car enough to know how well it works, but after beating on it a little it does get quite warm to the touch. Idid add almost a quart of fluid capacity. If this does not work for me I think the next step will be one of those cooler pans, Here is one from Derale, TCI also makes one and I'm sure there are others. Price is not outrageous:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Hope that helps
Pat
i have electric fan in front of my radiator and theres only about 4 inches of room width wise and length wise as in top to bottom only about 3-4 also before it hits the grill support <which is already notched for the elec fan. BTW i already have a finned deep sump tranny pan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry Rifle
Was it on here that I saw that early Ford picture where the guy turned his front spreader bar into a trans cooler? It had a line in and one out on the other side, and the comments were something to the effect that this system is common practice in the aircraft industry, and there is some name for that type of cooler.
I had a long conversation with a vendor at last years Turkey Run about those cylindrical coolers, and he seemed very well educated in cooling matters. He said the double pass ones, like you bought, and we also bought, are the most efficient type because of 360 degree surface area. I think this is they type I am going to but for the T, and my Son already has his installed on the '29.
Anxious to see how they work too.
Don
i have run them under may cars and use the bm stack plate type and run a 9inch stall on the street in both cars . have not have any trans parts go south .
i found the spot
On a Model A with fenders the frame gets crowded on the inside of the frame but there is room on the outside of the frame under the fender apron for a cooler and the front fenders should scoop some air under there which is not part of the flow under the hot engine and exhaust pipes. I presently have a 24" double pass finned cooler there as well as a Derale deep pan made of steel; C9X made the important comment that cast aluminum trans pans will crack easily but a steel one will more likely survive a hit with only a dent. I am not very happy about the fact that the hoses to the cooler pass under the frame but I have put them behind the front four bar mounts for protection. The Derale pan is low but adds over an additional quart of fluid and has cooling tubes running through the pan. In my car the front 5" dropped axle is the lowest part of the car with the engine pan next lowest and the Derale pan is higher than the engine pan. I just purchased the type of finned cooler with the fins arranged along the length of the cooler but it is only 18". I hope to replace the 24" aluminum fragile cooler with the sturdier finned version because my 350 foot long country driveway is pretty rough and I am not sure the fragile cooler could survive a spray of 1 inch gravel stones but then again maybe the shorter 18" cooler will not cool as well as the fragile 24" cooler. Again, I don't have it running yet so I don't know how this will all work out but I am hoping that the extra fluid and cooling fin holes in the Derale pan along with the frame-side cooler will be enough.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
On the model A roadster pickup,I hung a couple of 1" square tube brackets off the underside of the frame on the passenger side, and tucked the cooler up into the space between the frame and the splash apron above the running board. I have ran it for 2 years now, with no problems, but I have no real means of knowing how effective it is. I plumbed it in series with the tranny cooling loop in the bottom of my radiator lower tank (which was originally from a 6 cylinder Mopar). Incidentally, in that photo you can see the auxiliary welded brackets that I added to my aftermarket running board brackets, to help support the running boards when really heavy guys (liike me) stand on them.
Mine's a 19,000 GVW unit if front of the radiator and below the fan on the other side.
Kitz
What Jon said. ^ Same setup on my 34. I painted mine radiator black, though, so it wouldn't show through the grille.
the new cooler is in the same spot BUT!!!! i cut the hole wider <same length> so theres the hole about 7-8 inches long and about 5 inches wide for the air to circulate. in and out.
have used set-up like Brianrupnow but picked up 2 12 volt computer power supply fans hooked them up to run w/ key in "run" position spaced they 1 1/2 -2 inchs from floor on top of cooler, run to blow from floor to ground. Worked great cause you always have airflow even when stopped. 31 5w
my idea worked! <in the words of the guiness beer guys> BRILLIANT! :LOL: