Thread: Wanted: Old car (before 1970) in NC area under $6,000

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Yeah man that's cool. I wan't really bad but I need to look at it first. My dad doesn't wan't a V 6 he said and neither do I but it would be good for me to get it to learn how to build an engine again because I built an entire engine ONCE but it was fuel injected and all from some newer car like a 2001 or something and I forgot how to do some of the stuff like all the timing and stuff like that. I don't know though, it seems like it will be impossible for me to learn everything on how to build it up, like I wan't to make it fast, not just a street rod or for cruising but then if I make it fast I don't know what parts are best to get with what and all that stuff so I will be (in the future) asking ton's of questions. I need to really find someone here that can help me out like come to my house of something and help me build this thing since my dad said he forgot lot's of stuff and I don't trust someone that doesn't know much at all. If I were to get that car then I would strip it to the frame, sand the whole frame down and paint it, new front and rear end (don't have any clue what kind but probably like a 9" rear end so I can put some double wides on the back), umm disk brakes, then get the rims and tires and the shocks and springs on it. Then from there I don't know what else I would do. That's where the help would have to come in. I don't know anyone here that can help me so that's the problem.

Just for the info, there str8 6's and not V6's, there very reliable yet, not very good performers ( without modification ). You gotto remember a few things intaling swapping a motor in a car that old, they are 6 volt systems and a 350 runs off of 12 volt so, the car would need to be compleatly rewired for 12 volt, if your gagues are electric, they will need to be replaced or converted, the lighting system would need converted unless you could put in some kind of kick down relay so you could use the original sockets and lamps. Also would need new motor mounts. I should have the one I'm looking at home by friday, if I get it but, it's almost definite that I will.

Yeah.... well maybe I shouldn't get this car then. I don't have lot's of money, I have no job and I am going to be out of high school in a year and I have no money saved up. 500 bucks in the bank account and that's it. Suck's when you can't get hired anywhere because your 16. I don't know how to do all that wiring bullshit and all so I am about to say screw it. I was going to go and check out the car tomarrow but I don't think I will now. I am going to just look for another car with a 350 in it already so I don't have to spend so much money fixing rust, changing to 12 volt, new engine, new transmission, etc.

Yeah, I know what you mean, the painless wiring kit you would need would drain your bank account alone, although a painless kit's are supposto be very easy to install and have good instructions, and there really nice cars but, you probably wouldn't have the funding and I understand where ur coming from, there is better out there for less, u just gotta finds it.

I am about to give up. I have been looking for a long ass time now. Every time I find one my dad doesn't like it.... it won't even be his car. He is dumb anyways and doesn't know shit about them anymore, plus he won't ever work on it with me he is too busy worrying about himself like always. I don't know what to do anymore....

Keep your eyes out for somthing and, hope for the best, that's all you can do. Just dont give up, you'll never find anything if you give up.

Yeah well I still don't know about that car. I might as well go look at it (which I was going to do today but have to hold that off for tomarrow) I am going to make sure there are no real big problems with it and all. The guy said that it has 58,400 miles on the original engine which has to be bullshit. I asked him if he ever rebuilt it and he kind of hesitated and said "I don't know.... umm no never." Also every question I asked him he hesitated to answer. He was also kind of rude when I called too. I will go see though and tell you what I think when I get back tomarrow. Is there kit's you can buy to convert a 6v to a 12v? My auto tech teacher said that it's pretty easy and that I don't have to change the wiring out, just to change the bulb's.... what all is supposed to be done in that process too?

Ok, I think I can help you, the car could very well have only 58,000 on it, the reason I say that is because you have to figure that the cars wearn't driven very far cause towns were indipendent and, most people worked on farms or owned and/or operated stores in there town. Now you probably don't even need to know this cause you probabbly would go for a new raido cause the old one is an AM but, they are 6 volt and would need replaced. Painless makes the conversion kits ( other suppliers also ), now I have heard on this site somewhere where you could make the car start on 12 volt but run on 6 volt, I do not know how to make that work but, it would make your life easier. Personally, I would rod the engine in there cause, there tough engines that are easy to work on. A nice say, 4-71 blower would work good. Oh, the 216 that the car has to have ( cause it's manual trans ) makes 92 HP @ 3,400 RPM. Firing order is 153624. Mine's looking good for thursday to pick it up, but I won't have much work to do on it cause the guy arleady fixed all the floor pans including trunk, replaced master cylender and replaced all brakes and lines, put all new ignitions systems in it ( points@condensor, plugs and wires ). All it really needs is a fuel pump diaphram and rechromed bumpers and also a new paint job.

I just booked the value of your car and it came up at $3,300 as low value cause that's what catagory it would be in cause it needs rust work but the drivetrain is good working order.

Where did you get that from? Can I see that because I will show him it and offer him 2500. If I got a guy to go from 7000 to 3500 then I can do the same with this. Because there was this malibu for sale for 7000 but it was 4 door and worth nothing and the guy wanted 7000 and I told him 3000 or no deal and he said no. Later that week he called back said he would take 5500 I said nope. He called back the next week and said 4500 or 5000 I still said..... nope. Then he called again and said he will take 3500 and I said no and no I don't wan't it anymore. But yeah about the radio, I would sure take it out and put a CD player in it and convert everything straight to 12 volt. ON the transmission it's a 3 speed straight so no auto. I am not going to keep that engine if I got it, I would put a 350 or 454 if one could fit and then a 400 turbo transmission. But yeah dude today going to career center for auto tech I found in a really tiny like 25 car junk yard or fenced in all messed up cars and there was (I am almost 100% positive) a 50 chevy, the EXACT same kind as the other one. I was thinking if I got that car to get that one out of the junk and use parts for it if any good but no bumpers on it like the one I wan't to buy and I wan't the bumpers or the original ones. But yeah man if you get that car and I get this one then we should help eachother out and all on it.

Heres where I got that price value from, just click it and print it then show it to the owner. http://nadaguides.com/Values/ValueCa...=1950&ColorId=

With the one I'm getting, I will most likely just restore it but, crank the engine HP up to about 150 so I could consider it a restorod.

Yeah well what I will do is bring that with me and then first tell him I will give him 2500 and if he say's no then I will say 2800 and that's the highest I will go. I will point out EVERY little detail to make the car look bad to lower the price. If he say's anything then I will just show him the paper and be like look here is says it's worth 3300 so drop the price some and I will buy it and if not then I don't wan't it. Plus it only has a crappy 6 cylinder and all in it.

If he's any kind of respectable person to deal with, he would let you have it for 2,500. As I said b4 those old str8 6's are tough reliable engines just not good performers so, as you said you would plan to do, swap it out with a 350 V8 and this would be the cheapest and best way to create a Hotrod. You may be able to get the car for less than 2,500 if you know how to talk price negotability or as my mom says it " Dickering with the price ", basicly look the car over, check the frame and then basiccly just start low like 2,000 and then work up the price, show him the paper but, act nice to him and try to treat him with respect cause, his impression he gets on you could affect his price negotabilllaty. All I can say is good luck and I hope you get it.

Thanks a lot man. Yeah the only problem is money. My dad said that he doesn't have the money but I told him that I might be able to come up with 600 bucks and MAYBE 800 and then I would pay him off. He said to go look at it with a friend tomarrow and then if I think it's in good shape then instead of wasting his time he will go look himself and decide to buy it or not. Hopefully it's not sold yet but I really wan't it now. I will just act as nice as I can and just be like yeah I don't have much money so I am going to have to get an old car and pay my parent's off and I have always wanted a car like that blah blah and just talk to him a bit. Then I will look over EVERY little detail like the frame and everything and look at the engine and see how clean it is or if it's all rusted up and oil leaking all over the place and if so then I will tell him 2000 bucks. I will see what he says if not then I will just stand there and say like 2400 then 2500 and stop there. If he says no then I will tell him 2600 or 2800 is lowest I will go and if he says no again I will give him my number and tell him that if he changes his mind to give me a call and let me know. Then that's when I start crying and go home. hah

What do you think about putting a 1 inch chop top on it and then shaving the handles off and putting suicide doors? I know you might say that it's up to me but either way, leaving it or chop top and shaved handles is good with me.