Thread: ZZ 502 Ramjet programming
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09-16-2005 07:19 PM #1
ZZ 502 Ramjet programming
Just swapped a 502 Ramjet into my 4wd Safari. Engine runs well, but the tailpipes indicate fatter than necessary fuel mixture. Anyone know if there's a trick where you can decieve the o2 sensor into thinking that the engine's running mebbe 10-15% richer than it actually is? I remember reading somewhere that the 502 Ramjet was tuned on the fat side, I just find it ridiculously rich. Even the oil is black after 300 miles...
Thanx97' AWD c/w 5" lift
325/60 15's
Diamond Racing custom 10" rims
ZZ 502 Ramjet
PATC 4L80E
Compushift controller
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09-21-2005 05:52 AM #2
ANYONE??????????97' AWD c/w 5" lift
325/60 15's
Diamond Racing custom 10" rims
ZZ 502 Ramjet
PATC 4L80E
Compushift controller
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09-21-2005 09:05 AM #3
Call Arizona Speed and Marine in Chandler, Arizona and ask them. They can program MEFI controllers.....
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09-23-2005 03:21 PM #4
Thank you so much. I'm a regular on Astrosafari.com, and I was starting to wonder if the lack of response here was due to an allergy to newbies....
I've swapped in a 195* stat in place of the OEM 180*, and relocated my electric fan sensor so as to be located in the actual coolant stream of the upper rad hose. Temps are stable, but I still find that she runs rich. I get around 8-10 mpg city, and 15mpg highway. Not too bad for a 502 pushing a 4900 lbs vehicle with the areodynamics of a brick, but I still think I should be getting better with an average of 15% throttle opening....
Thanx again97' AWD c/w 5" lift
325/60 15's
Diamond Racing custom 10" rims
ZZ 502 Ramjet
PATC 4L80E
Compushift controller
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09-23-2005 03:42 PM #5
Did you call them? Your mileage is about normal but running rich and getting the oil black so quick is not.
I figure that our 350 with injection and a MEFI gets 5mpg on
106 unleaded.
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09-24-2005 05:34 AM #6
Well...(he said embarrassingly), I'm having trouble finding their website. I've tried every kind of domain name I can think of, but....
EDIT: Found the site, thanxLast edited by Peter Smurf; 09-24-2005 at 06:22 AM.
97' AWD c/w 5" lift
325/60 15's
Diamond Racing custom 10" rims
ZZ 502 Ramjet
PATC 4L80E
Compushift controller
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10-05-2005 01:10 PM #7
man i like the idea....502...safari....
That things gotta fly.......man thats got me seeing tickets... (stars)
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10-05-2005 08:07 PM #8
Yeah, been about a month and a half, but I still get a rush when I floor it on the highway. She's running 3.42's with 31" tires, so launches aren't as specatular as one would think (though definitely awesome as compared to a 4.3. Remember, we're talking about a 4,900 lbs truck here.
Got an estimate of $350 to reprogram the ecm from Arizona Speed & Marine. I sent 'em an email asking how much they'd charge me for a brand new ecm, reprogrammed by them. Waiting for an answer ...97' AWD c/w 5" lift
325/60 15's
Diamond Racing custom 10" rims
ZZ 502 Ramjet
PATC 4L80E
Compushift controller
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10-05-2005 09:25 PM #9
I am working on installing a 350 crate motor in a 89 astro....just cant seem to decide where to go after I tear the crate motor down.....boost compression, more cam ,better heads.....man I'm getting a headache...
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10-06-2005 05:47 PM #10
Alot of my buddies on AstroSafari.com run small blocks. They love 'em. My preoccupation is always with reliability. I absolutely abhor tearing into stuff over'n over again.....
Why don't you just slap on headers and nitrous and call it a day?97' AWD c/w 5" lift
325/60 15's
Diamond Racing custom 10" rims
ZZ 502 Ramjet
PATC 4L80E
Compushift controller
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10-06-2005 06:28 PM #11
Peter, what did AZ Speed & Marine tell you they would do in the reprogramming? You could also try smaller injectors which would flow less for a given pulse width.... but then, would the computer try to adjust the injector pulse width to compensate???
I can say one thing, the AZ Speed & Marine guys seem to know what they are doing.
mike in tucson
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10-06-2005 08:45 PM #12
I would like to go wild with this and keep the injection...I thought about using a TPI setup....Now the only delema I have is which full length header will fit....Atleast so I can install 2.5 dual... or I may try to fit 3in duals.....course the noise ordinance won't like me none....
Nitrous....sure.....300hp shot outta do it...
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10-07-2005 03:48 AM #13
Robot; They didn't really tell me. Sorta more along the lines of "send us $350USD and your ecm and we'll do something with it." You say they seem to know what they're doing. Is that from experience, or what you've heard? I don't hardly trust anyone anymore.
DR; Go get 'em, tiger LOLOL97' AWD c/w 5" lift
325/60 15's
Diamond Racing custom 10" rims
ZZ 502 Ramjet
PATC 4L80E
Compushift controller
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10-08-2005 05:03 AM #14
I just realized something (duh). I don't have an H pipe on my duals. I'm running modded OEM stainless manifolds which have had the restrictive AIR bungs removed, but I don't have an H pipe. I had assumed that the exhaust shop woulda installed one automatically, but they didn't. You don't suppose that this, coupled with manifolds instead of full-length headers as recommended by GM, is the reason for my rich mixture, do ya?97' AWD c/w 5" lift
325/60 15's
Diamond Racing custom 10" rims
ZZ 502 Ramjet
PATC 4L80E
Compushift controller
Getting closer on this project. What a lot of work!
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