Welcome to Club Hot Rod!  The premier site for everything to do with Hot Rod, Customs, Low Riders, Rat Rods, and more. 

  •  » Members from all over the US and the world!
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and hundreds of thousands of posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

 

Thread: big block head flow?
          
   
   

Reply To Thread
Results 1 to 13 of 13
  1. #1
    steelsixpack101 is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Mankato
    Posts
    48

    big block head flow?

     



    Of all you guys that have experience big block chevy heads(mainly oval port). Stock 781's oval ports usually flow 250-260 peak cfm intake and 175 peak cfm exhaust. I wanna know on average how much they flow when you do port matching, bowl work, and three angle seats and a back cut of the intake valves?

  2. #2
    1JohnnyO is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Hagaman
    Car Year, Make, Model: 71 Chevelle SS, 67 Camaro
    Posts
    404

    I have a good friend who runs 049 oval ports on his 454..they're the same casting as the 781's. He did a minor bowl blend, intake gasket match, and smoothed out the exhaust port. He then took them to Creative Flow Management for testing. They flowed 308 cfm at .600 intake, and 215 cfm at .700 on exhaust. This was his first time at porting, if you're thinking of doing it yourself. Mike from Creative Flow Management told him they would easily support 600 HP. It's easy to get good numbers out of stock castings. Well, porting is never easy! But you get my drift. John
    When your dreams turn to dust, Vacuum!

  3. #3
    steelsixpack101 is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Mankato
    Posts
    48

    wow! that very good! your right sometimes porting ain't easy it sure takes skill!

  4. #4
    pat mccarthy's Avatar
    pat mccarthy is offline CHR Member/Contributor Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    bay city
    Posts
    10,546

    /////////////
    Last edited by pat mccarthy; 08-31-2006 at 07:50 PM.
    Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip

  5. #5
    erik erikson's Avatar
    erik erikson is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    clive
    Car Year, Make, Model: BLOWN 540 57 CHEVY
    Posts
    2,878

    Quote Originally Posted by steelsixpack101
    Of all you guys that have experience big block chevy heads(mainly oval port). Stock 781's oval ports usually flow 250-260 peak cfm intake and 175 peak cfm exhaust. I wanna know on average how much they flow when you do port matching, bowl work, and three angle seats and a back cut of the intake valves?
    Is that with you porting them or a pro. cylinder head guy porting them?It might be eaiser if you give us some engine specs. and we can tell you if the are even worth using.

  6. #6
    steelsixpack101 is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Mankato
    Posts
    48

    Quote Originally Posted by erik erikson
    Is that with you porting them or a pro. cylinder head guy porting them?It might be eaiser if you give us some engine specs. and we can tell you if the are even worth using.
    My specs are 408 cubes, 4.155 bore, 3.76 stroke, 300in 310exh duration Mechanical cam with .556in 568exh lift. edelbrock rpm intake, 12.5:1 compression. hooker headers 2in or 1-7/8 diameter. L88 crank, stock truck rods with ARP bolts.

  7. #7
    erik erikson's Avatar
    erik erikson is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    clive
    Car Year, Make, Model: BLOWN 540 57 CHEVY
    Posts
    2,878

    Quote Originally Posted by steelsixpack101
    My specs are 408 cubes, 4.155 bore, 3.76 stroke, 300in 310exh duration Mechanical cam with .556in 568exh lift. edelbrock rpm intake, 12.5:1 compression. hooker headers 2in or 1-7/8 diameter. L88 crank, stock truck rods with ARP bolts.
    The 781's will work fine.
    I would install a set of 2.19/1.88 do a good valve job,bowl blend, gasket match.Is this a street car or a drag car?If it is a drag car then I would look into a victor jr. intake.If it is a street car then your intake would work better because it will make torque at a lower rpm.

  8. #8
    steelsixpack101 is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Mankato
    Posts
    48

    It's weekend drag racer, but i will drive on the city streets, so i'm going with dual plane intake, how much more CFM can you get out of 2.19/1.88 versus 2.06/1.88's? do think it will make a noticeable gain in power?

  9. #9
    1JohnnyO is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Hagaman
    Car Year, Make, Model: 71 Chevelle SS, 67 Camaro
    Posts
    404

    If you mean seat of the pants noticeable, no it wont...but it will give you slightly better times at the races. The bigger intake valve will likely help at higher rpms, but the heads flow surprisingly well at low and mid rpms, as in street driving, with the stock valves. But with the combo you're proposing, I would install the larger valves. The problem with the larger intake and the smaller bore is going to be shrouding around the intake valve. That's one argument for sticking with the smaller valve.
    When your dreams turn to dust, Vacuum!

  10. #10
    steelsixpack101 is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Mankato
    Posts
    48

    since i got smaller bores i'll stick with the 2.06/1.72. probably use stainless steel valves though.

  11. #11
    pat mccarthy's Avatar
    pat mccarthy is offline CHR Member/Contributor Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    bay city
    Posts
    10,546

    //////////////
    Last edited by pat mccarthy; 08-31-2006 at 07:51 PM.
    Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip

  12. #12
    30-A Rider is offline CHR Member Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Santa Rosa Beach
    Car Year, Make, Model: 66Chevelle SS; 70 Chevelle Conv.
    Posts
    150

    Why does it appear Pat's posts have been deleted/removed/edited?

    Question on thses 781 heads some of you have been talking of. With regards to gasket match porting for a street strip engine....where exactly is material being removed? From my limited instruction and understanding, gasket matching goes into the port only about 1-1.5" in depth wise....matieral is removed from the sides, the roof and floor of the ports except on the exhaust sides. I've always been interested in port work, and read many articles,,,but have never actually watched someone port a set of heads. So how much of what I know is true? Any port people out there know the answers to this?

  13. #13
    pat mccarthy's Avatar
    pat mccarthy is offline CHR Member/Contributor Visit my Photo Gallery
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    bay city
    Posts
    10,546

    Quote Originally Posted by 30-A Rider
    Why does it appear Pat's posts have been deleted/removed/edited?

    Question on thses 781 heads some of you have been talking of. With regards to gasket match porting for a street strip engine....where exactly is material being removed? From my limited instruction and understanding, gasket matching goes into the port only about 1-1.5" in depth wise....matieral is removed from the sides, the roof and floor of the ports except on the exhaust sides. I've always been interested in port work, and read many articles,,,but have never actually watched someone port a set of heads. So how much of what I know is true? Any port people out there know the answers to this?
    well it all been said. so i pull it . port matching is a waste of time for the street you want the intake ports smaller then the intake ports of the heads by .030 all the way around if you do not know where the intake will sit then you can make good stuff in to junk i have did a lot of port work but it all at the chamber front of the valve and in the back of the valve bowl work were you see power. and in the valve job i do all this so if you can not do the valve job then you should not cut and move things if you do not know how it works have seen many screwed up heads and intakes that were junk by some one thinking they were making them better and if you hit the seats with a die grinder . you will ruin a good set of heads
    Last edited by pat mccarthy; 09-15-2006 at 06:10 PM.

Reply To Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Links monetized by VigLink