hahahah Denny $50.00 over 200.00. you are so right but let me tell ya about the G.M mark up i ground lt4 hot cams along with some other service cams. I asked one day i said if i was interested in thios lt4 cam what could u sell it to me for they said $53.00 i said huh 53 or 153 nope 53 i said eff gm they want $230.00 for a cam that i grind and they buy for $53 how can gm be that broke when they are 127% markup. well any way the lt4 cam had a rockwell hardness of min. 52 max. 65. my question now is if something is gonna give somethings gonna give right so if the cams isnt hard enough the cam lobe wipes out. what if its harder wont it eventually start wearing away at the lifter and once that happens the lobe will eventually be gone also