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    go with a tru dbl roller

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    Here is some of the ignition parts that i am thinking of using

    crank trigger distributor
    http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...=MSD8558/424.0

    crank trigger kit
    http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...=MSD8620/424.0

    also on my 7al-3 box i forgot, it got toasted, no warranty because it was a swap meet buy, so for the ignition box i am not sure hich one i want to get, maybe sometime in the future i might want to go with a 200 shot of nos nothing to crazy so i would like an ignition that will accomadate the nos if i ever decide to do it. Has anybody ever had any experience with this ignition from msd? i have used an msd 6 box that i have had for years and havent had a problem with it,

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    there is no need to run any crank tiggers for this build less you are going to run a dfi or race it. i have used MSD for 10 + years there stuff is as good or better then anything out there. the 6 AL works for the street. the 7AL box and the tigger with the belt drive would be for very limted street use and the front drive dist will get in the way of any belts all this stuff is for allout drag racing or if you want THE LOOk then there will be things that will need to be overcome
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    Pat is right , what you are wanting to use is all out drag racing equipment and the gear drive is a good set up for street or strip but they can be very loud, you can buy waht they call a quiet one but it is still loud. if you dont mind the whine get one.

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    NO SORRY no gear drive for any thing. if this build gets a soild roller cam with any lift the springs will get work on hard and with added harmonincs with the gear drive will be much harder on any parts. my goal when building a engine this to stop added harmoninces i would never added any part to any engine knowing it would add more harmonincs the ROLLMASTER is the chain sets i have use in many builds that what i would use or the belt
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    Glad I saw this thread - as I was about to order an E-brock quiet version (p/n7892) before I hung the rest of the car on the frame this winter. I'll just keep the Cloyes Tru-Roller set up and forget about it forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson
    Another point a guy brought up at coffee the other day against gear drives, all those nasty old harmonics must also transfer into the distributor and eventually start pounding all those neat little electronic gizmo's apart....Whatcha think????
    that it will. what do you think what happens to the roller lifter needle bearings they see it right off this stuff could keep you up all night
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    gear drive is a good set up for street or strip
    Seems like most folks strongly disagree with that advice.
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    -double roller timing chain
    -msd pro billet distributor
    -digital 6 msd ignition box, has timing retard for starting and also for nitrous applications if i ever add it
    i am trying to build this engine as cheap as possible but i have problems looking thru the catalogs aand seeing all that neat s--t!!!! lol thanks for keeping me on track guys

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    I ran a Jackson gear drive in my Monte and put 20k miles on it with no problems. The noise was OK at 19 years old but no more.

    I have heard in here a lot about 'harmonics' but I have never seen any data or FFT of the torsional response in the cam system in any engine to verify exactly what that issue might be. Sure seems to be plausible in my gut but with all the oil lubrication there is also much squeeze damping residing inside the engine as well.

    Anyhow I will not use a gear drive again ...............

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    I bought an 83 monte carlo yesterday and gutted it today for the roll cage. I got the cage, seats, seat covers, 5 points, fuel cell, battery relocate kit, complete 9'' rear that i will tear down and have it narrowed but just for minitubs, got a good deal on the axle, $20 hehe, just need the drop spindles, ladder bars/coilovers etc.

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    use art morrision coil over's and ladder bars

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    Nothing beats a 4-link for versatility. Ladder bars are lousy on the street as they try to use the differential housing as a torsion bar. Yes, they are simple and easy to tune for the strip but a 4 link is good for both street and strip.
    John

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    my last car had ladder bars on it and i have no complaints, worked very well for me so that is what i will be going with

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    hey 41willy's i see your from iowa, i am in council bluffs, you should bring that beast of yours down to the strip by glenwood if you havent allready been there

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