Thread: rhodes lifters
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03-11-2008 09:26 PM #16
Ok, and then I said I hadn't heard of them and had no idea they even existed.....
So, recommended for Hydraulic rollers..... Think I'd probably one to speak to someone in their tech department and see what the negatives are when running them with a solid roller cam..... So little friction and wear with a roller.....dunno what the negative side effects might be running them on a solid roller but definitely worth checking into.... Could "cam up" for the top end with a solid roller, then let the hydraulics put a little bottom and mid back in maybe???????Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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03-11-2008 09:26 PM #17
I knew that was coming. First it was said, hey, those are hydraulic flat tappets. Then, I show the links, and I get this. Most don't even read what I put. So, here it is...from their site:Our race team page
Chuck
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03-11-2008 09:29 PM #18
Sounds like it might work. I will email them tonight. Thanks for all the help! Any thoughts on the cannister as I also run a 400 sbc that has problems pulling ? The thing seems to pull more vac when hot.
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03-11-2008 09:35 PM #19
i would not run a hyd on a solid roller cam they are heavy heavy if a small roller ok but you will have to run a rev kit on the lifters to hold them on the cam this i do know you will beat the lifter to hell much better getting the cam ground the way you want the first place i a mud truck you will have to be on top of your valves springs or bad things will happenLast edited by pat mccarthy; 03-11-2008 at 09:38 PM.
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03-11-2008 09:37 PM #20
Originally Posted by pat mccarthy
Anyway, back to the original question.... Depends on how you want to run the engine, if you're going for good low and mid range power, a good hydraulic roller would do fine, then with the Rhodes lifters, if they will in fact pick up the vacuum as advertised, you might be ok... Depends on how much vacuum you have to pull. Sounds like a good discussion item with one of the cam companies Tech Reps!!!!! If you tell him what's in your engine now, and how much vacuum you have to pull he should be able to come up with just the right grind.....Last edited by Dave Severson; 03-11-2008 at 09:42 PM.
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03-11-2008 09:38 PM #21
Also planning on Patriot heads,RPM air gap w/1000 Speed Demon, JE forged pistons with around 13:1 comp. Any ideas on tq #s?
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03-11-2008 09:43 PM #22
i have used howards cams there ok but i would look at erson cams tell them what you wantIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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03-11-2008 09:45 PM #23
Originally Posted by DennyW
Yup, that would be a dang good plan!!!!!! Sure be a shame to rap up all that money in cam and lifters, then not get the vacuum you need, or wose yet break a bunch of brand new valve train goodies!!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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03-11-2008 09:47 PM #24
yep well they still are heavy and 680 is getting there but a heavy train they will not help you on you need to know the lifter is not skidding on the cam that happens you in deep $hitIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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03-11-2008 09:50 PM #25
that i think alot of lC for 13to1 for a short run ? but hey i could be wrongIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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03-11-2008 09:51 PM #26
Yes this build needs to last and be reliable-if possible.Probably need to stay with the grind and solid lifters and hope with some fine tuning we can get it there.
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03-11-2008 09:54 PM #27
What ic would you reccomend? We can use a thicker gasket if need be can't we?
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03-11-2008 09:54 PM #28
Well, think I'd be on the horn with a rep at my favorite cam company... Be a shame to spend all the $$$$$$ then not have the vacuum you need to make the class.....
Might ask the cam company about the Rhodes lifters, too.... Doubt the techs at Rhodes would be saying much bad about one of the products that makes their paycheck.....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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03-11-2008 09:59 PM #29
if i post what i really think i may get hate mail from a cam grinder i would try some thing it 108 but you may not make your vacuum with your @.050Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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03-11-2008 10:01 PM #30
This is the grind they came up with and said it should pull. But NO guarantee said the tech.
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