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Just starting 496 build for a mud bog truck. Goal is go out of 200 ft. pit and be judged on the best time. But some pits are dug deep and winner is based on distance. With this in mind, what fill should I use? Half or full? I may sit in deep mud at 5000 rpms for a couple of minutes trying to go the extra foot. Will a full fill hurt the cooling of the motor when I "churn it up"?

no all the heat is about one two inch from the top of the deck .i had a 573 short fill that was used in the mud pits and have had two short fills on the street they do i think hold heat a bit longer but never was much of any thing there is some work you can do to the deck of the block to help with cooling your machine shop if they build any big blocks can help you with this

Thanks Pat but not much help locally with a perfomance build. They don't like roller cams and are not real fond of filler either but will get a good deal on labor charges. But we will do iy my way since I AM writting the check.

Originally Posted by blueblazes

Thanks Pat but not much help locally with a perfomance build. They don't like roller cams and are not real fond of filler either but will get a good deal on labor charges. But we will do iy my way since I AM writting the check.

well good deal on labor sometimes in the long run is not a good deal. all my labor rates are inline with any ones around here or less. there are many small things that i do to build a roller engine and things i do to the older blocks with the deck they may help with cooling. i hope you do have them check your oil clearances were they need to be(very big deal)sounds like to me there not race engine builders?

Yea I know how cheap labor turns out sometimes. Sure wish you were closer no doubt who I would use. He has 1 more week and if not started I am moving to a hi-per shop 100 miles from home. Sounds like my best bet anyway.

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

well good deal on labor sometimes in the long run is not a good deal. all my labor rates are inline with any ones around here or less. there are many small things that i do to build a roller engine and things i do to the older blocks with the deck they may help with cooling. i hope you do have them check your oil clearances were they need to be(very big deal)sounds like to me there not race engine builders?

Looks like you were right on Pat. Stopped by the "engine builder" yesterday to check on progress and block was still untouched.Turns out he has little experience on bbc block prep for a stroker. He was counting on his help to do all the work and the "builder" get the pay and praise. The help refused the deal. Now going with a REAL builder with experience in hi-per builds. This was my first choice but tried to stay local--what a waste of time. Thanks for input and I hope folks in your neck of the woods appreciate your expertise and knowledge. I know we learn alot from you and the others on this forum! I will let yall know how the 496 turns out.

ok that s the way it goes sometimes. it takes time to build one right alot of guys just do not want to build them . good luck

Its strange that after years and years of blue printing things one item at a time to make them them way they need to be in a max-max way that with the internet, E-bay, and cnc machines everything is fast,fast,cheap,cheap components---we still do them one cylinder at a time, exactly where we want them

We recently did a job on a bbc that had been rebuilt by Jasper twice---the main caps didn't match, were out of line worst than you can imagine, the cylinders were all on different lines, deck looked like rocky mountains( peaks and valleys)

About 25 % of our business is fixing other peoples wet dreams, and recently we have been finding out that a lot of them have seen 2 or 3 redos before they came to us

Used to be people took pride in their work. Now they just want a paycheck, and they don't care about the product

Absolutely correct... Faster ain't always better!!!

Hey Blue, at least you should be glad you got your stuff out of there before it got all messed up!!!!! Cheaper to find a new machinist then all new parts!!

Yep I do believe that was a blessing Dave. Should get parts to machinist before week is out. Still have to wait 2 more weeks for heads to arrive but build should be in the works real soon. This guy does alot of builds for local round trackers and comes highly recommended. Lost no $ just alot of time and aggrevation with local guy. Once again, "You get what you pay for".