Thanks guys, I'm learning more from your input every day. Think I'll buy new rods, maybe I can sell the old ones, they still have the stock flattops hanging on them, the new ones come with ARP bolts, the new pistons do come with the spring clip retainer.One more thing , bout three weeks ago I stopped out at summit racing, I live 45mins. from them, very cool, like a hotrod part grocery store!