Thread: rule change I need a new cam
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11-27-2011 11:48 AM #1
rule change I need a new cam
So the club that I belong to changed their rules again (mostly because my last engine built with advice from you guys cleaned up last season). The new rule in my class states that I must run a factory grind for a cam, but they never stated what year that grind has to be. the way I see it is I can run any cam that the general offered in 454, this should allow some fairly potent offerings. That being said what were some of the best 454 cams offered by the factory. Only thing is it must be flat tappet and must pull 15" of vac. I thought about the ls6 mechanical but I doubt it would have enough vacuum at idle. The ls5 hydraulic seems like it might be a better option, but as I have never used a factory cam I need to draw on some of your experience here. Thanks in advance, Clinto.
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11-27-2011 12:48 PM #2
ok i do not know what cam you have now ? how much CR you have? many of some of the better older cam grinds are copy of the GM hp cams . how are the hell are they going to know if its a stock GM grind ? with GM numbers????Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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11-27-2011 12:58 PM #3
sorry for the lack of info, 461 with 215 heads on flat tops, 2.19/188 valves with I am guessing about 9.5 to 1 compression, cam is a just an rv cam that makes about 16" of vac currently. they actually have a tear down rule in place in my class, so it may be measured eventually if I keep winning. I asked the same question about how they would know and all I was told is " we will know".
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11-27-2011 01:25 PM #4
no i do not think they would.. G m marine cam 500/500 222/234 lc 115 close to this cam works good and the l88 grind along with the roller grinds are the only gm cams i used for bbcIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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11-27-2011 03:17 PM #5
Possible to pick a cam with the number on it they like, then send it off to be reground?????Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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11-27-2011 03:36 PM #6
Dave you must be an old time stock car driver hahahaCharlie
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11-27-2011 03:59 PM #7
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11-27-2011 05:32 PM #8
found my cam specs, 214,224 duration@.050, 108 intake lobe center, .503 int/.528 exh, 292/302 duration. this cam makes the 15" of vacuum I need but barely. I know this is not a big cam for a bbc but you can definately hear that it has a cam in it. I guess I need something that sounds a little more stockish, that is why I am leaning towards the ls5.
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11-27-2011 05:41 PM #9
i will stick with the cam i posted very close to what your lookiing for and has a Gm part number has been used for what your doingIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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11-27-2011 06:01 PM #10
I think I found the pn Pat, is it 10185060, the performance parts catalogue lists it as a 454ho/marine camshaft. if so what do these cams sound like at an idle
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11-27-2011 07:29 PM #11
not to bad they have to idel good so they can shift at low speed use to buy them cams for 35.00 each hell of a dealLast edited by pat mccarthy; 11-27-2011 at 07:42 PM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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11-28-2011 06:31 AM #12
I looked around on the net and they seem to be around 187.00 usd, not to many places carry them. Where can you get a deal on them Pat.
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11-28-2011 07:36 AM #13
i was getting them as new take out i can not get them any more.from competition products you could call and ask if thet have any hanging round . a company like melling has them and others i can get them threw if they pull you down hand them a mellings book with part number cross over? just get one threw GM parts ? i would look around at marine dealers for one on the shelf or used out of a engine that was hurt long as all lifters stay in the same order it would be a older 454 /330 hp merc cam .i was just thinking i know some one that may have a good used cam /liftersLast edited by pat mccarthy; 11-28-2011 at 07:45 AM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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11-28-2011 09:06 AM #14
I found a dealer online who has a new one for 137.00 I think i will buy it and give it a try, thanks for all the info guys.
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11-28-2011 09:37 AM #15
one more quick question, this cam info states that the cam is advanced 5 degrees, i am assuming this is to provide more torque, would it be advisable to run it retarded a few degrees to get some more rpm.
Thank you Roger. .
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