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    Question 454 Rebuild Startup Problem

     



    I have just completed a rebuild of a 1970 Chevy Caprice.
    454.
    bored, balanced, new pistons, new cam, new exhaust valves seats and seals, valve springs, headers....
    I started the engine for the first time today.
    After only a few minutes, the header tube for #3 cylinder started getting cherry red.
    The engine runs smoothly and doesn't backfire.
    What the heck did I do?????
    Please help me.

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    Budly,

    It sounds to me like you engine is running lean. Have you tried enriching the fuel mixture at the Carb? I know that glowing header pipes is supposedly a tell-tale sign of a lean mixture. This can also be caused by bad gas...Since you're just putting the rebuilt engine into the car, my question is, has the car been sitting for a while? (not running?) And has the gas been sitting for a while too? This just happened to my '55 about 3 weeks ago. The fuel had schlacked so bad that it caused the carb to gum up and start running lean. That caused my number 3 header pipe to glow red hot, and I found out later that it also burnt the header gasket at the number 8 cylinder. Anyway, thats my suggestion. Lots a luck.

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    Had this problem on a 350 sbc. I had adjusted the rocker arm nut too tight. I went a half of turn after I could feel no play in the pushrod. Talked to my neighbor who runs a bbc in his stock car. He said never go over a quarter turn. The valve was being held open. Readjusted the roccker arms and the problem went away.

    I also heard the lean theory but that wasn't the case on mine although it does happen like Firechicken said.
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    Re: 454 Rebuild Startup Problem

     



    Thanks for the respones....

    It actually turns out to be both carb and lifter.
    I had the rocker arms way too tight.
    Changed them all to 1/4 turn and they are fine now.
    I had always adjusted them the Old School way
    while the engine was running in my younger days.
    I also know that my carb is running a bit lean but
    that's easy to fix with a pair of screwdrivers.

    This engine is in a 1970 Chevy Caprice Classic Sport Coup.
    73k original miles. 454 (30 over now )
    I've had her on jackstands for 3 years and just now
    finished with the rebuild.
    Although I switched to headers, I am trying to keep it
    somewhat stock looking from the outside.
    You can't see most of what's been done.

    New: Keith Black pistons, GM Performance cam and lifters,
    new timing set, oil pump, water pump (GM cast from YR1),
    p/s pump, full length ceramic coated headers.
    block magnafluxed, bored 30 over, fully balanced.

    I'll have her road worthy by the weekend .

    Thanks for the help.

    BudlyUSA

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    Glad you got it all sorted out!

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    Glad you got her going. Club Hot Rod has helped me alot with my project so keep visiting this site.
    Toolow

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