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    Looking for suggestions on first time build

     



    I have a 71 chevelle that I want to build a engine for. The engine that I have in mind is a 30over 350 chevy.
    Casting # 3970010
    Engine Code V0821TJD
    From what I can tell its a 1974 160 bhp 4 bolt main engine. The tranny that I have is a Turbo 350. This car will not be a daily driver nor am I planing on doing any serious racing ( aside from the ocassional stop light sprint). Id like to build a engine that makes power from near idle to about 5500 rpm and makes 300 to 350 hp at the rear wheels. Fuel mileage is not a concern as this will not be a daily driver. Id like to also keep costs down as much as possible. I guess I'm looking for a direction to go with
    this as its my first solo attempt to build up a engine. Any help or suggestions would greatly be appreciated. Are the hp #'s im after realistic ? Can I accomplish this using say domed pistons with these stock heads, a mild cam and good intake and carb? Can I use vortec heads and intake with dished or flat pistons to get close to thoughs #'s? I know what results I'm after but I don't know the best and cheapest way to acheive them..... Thoughts?
    Its better to say nothing and appear dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt....

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    If you are doing this for the challenge, by all means, do the rebuild. The GM ZZ4 crate engine with run around $3800 plus sales tax. This is hard to beat when adding the cost of your parts, machine work and personal time involved. This engine also has a 2/24 warranty as well

    If you will rebuild regardless, this is the parts breakdown on how GM gets 355 HP. Good luck.

    ZZ4 Technical Information

    Horsepower 355 @ 5250 RPM
    Torque 405 @ 3500 RPM
    Max. Recommended RPM 5800
    Compression Ratio 10:1
    Block 10105123 Four bolt main, cast iron
    Crankshaft 12556307 Forged steel
    Connecting Rods 10108688 PM rods
    Pistons 10159436 High Silicon aluminum with offset pins
    Piston Rings 12528817
    Camshaft 10185071 Hydraulic roller
    Lift .47" I, .510" E.
    Duration @ .050: 208º I, .221º E.
    Intake Manifold 10185063 aluminum dual plane
    Distributor 1104067 HEI
    Cylinder Heads 12556463 Aluminum 58cc combustion chambers
    Intake Valves 10168465 1.94"
    Exhaust Valves 10168514 1.50"
    Valve Springs 12551483 LT4 chrome silicon
    Rocker Arms 10089648 1.5 ratio
    Valve Lash Zero
    Spark Plugs FR5LS Gap .035
    RapidFire #5 Gap .045
    Fuel 92 Octane
    Ignition Timing 10 BTDC @ 4000 RPM
    32º total @4000 RPM with vacuum advance disconnected

    Technical Notes: Carburetor, spark plug wires, starter, oil filter and oil filter adapter, and exhaust manifolds not included. Distributor P/N 1104067 or melonized distributor gear P/N 10456413 must be used on all crate engines with steel camshafts.



    Customize your ZZ4 with GM Performance Parts
    Below is a sample of the parts that you'll find throughout our catalog to help you complete your crate engine installation or customize your crate engine for your specific application.
    12361146 High torque Mini Starter High Power, compact design.
    Technical Note: This starter is not recommended for competition.
    12361056 GM Performance Parts Logo 8mm Spark Plug Wires
    12342079 Chrome 14" High Performance Air Cleaner
    24502586 HOT Cam-Hydraulic steel roller designed for showroom stock racing
    12370839 1.6 Ratio Roller Rocker Arms Required with HOT cam
    24502540 Valve Cover Adapters - Allows use of flange mount valve covers on center bolt style heads - Required when roller rocker arms are used
    ---Tom

    1964 Studebaker Commander
    1964 Studebaker Daytona

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    Thanks for the info Swifter...
    Its not so much that I'm looking for a challenge as I wanna be able to say I built this car (engine and tranny included) myself. Am I wrong to think that I can attain a 350 ballpark horsepower range for less then $4000?? Im sure that the ZZ4 is a kick!ss engine but I was really wanting to use what I have as a base and
    go from there.....
    Its better to say nothing and appear dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt....

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    There are 3 books you MUST get if you want to do your own build for the first time.

    "How to build the smallblock Chevrolet" (Larry Atherton and Larry Schreib) ISBN 0-931472-26-1

    "How to build max performance Chevy small blocks on a budget" (David Vizard) ISBN 1-884089-34-8

    "How to rebuild your small-block Chevy" (David Vizard) ISBN 1-55788-029-8

    The max performance book by Vizard is one of the best books out there. He even gives you 10 different engine combos - with every detail you need - and they are dyno tested.

    That's what I suggest you start with. Good luck!
    Andy
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    Andy,
    Thanks for the reply. Two of the three books I had already ordered. Today I just ordered the third "How to build max performance Chevy small blocks on a budget".... The one thing I definitely have plenty of is time. Again thanks for the info!!!
    Its better to say nothing and appear dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt....

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