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09-08-2005 09:29 PM #1
350 help
i just bought a 350 short block that .30 over (which makes it a 355 right? well i just gotta clean out the cylinders and hone them, then a rebuild. its a 2 bolt but im going to race it on and off. I want to run high 13's in a Gen III camaro. What would you guys recommend as far as cam size/duration and heads. I plan on running a Holley 750
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09-09-2005 12:37 AM #2
First off, don't get offended, but the block is not .30 over. That would be three hundred thousandths. It's 0.030" over or thirty thousandths.
The best heads currently available that are affordable and iron are the Chevrolet L31 Vortec units, part number 12558060. they are fully assembled with valves, springs, keepers and retainers for $249.75 each at Scoggin-Dickey Chevrolet ( www.sdpc.com ). With the springs supplied, they are limited to a valve lift of 0.450", but can be ordered modified for 0.525" lift under part number SD8060A for $324.75 each. You have to use a Vortec intake manifold with them, but most guys will want to change manifolds anyway.
The camshaft should be the last thing you order because you must tailor it to your specific static compression ratio and intended usage.
Use this same thread to ask questions as you work your way along and some of us on here will be glad to answer your questions, including helping you pick a cam when the time comes.
You might want to order a Scoggin-Dickey catalog online. It's free.
P.S. read this paper I wrote on compression ratio to get a good idea of your actual ratio as you plan your build....
http://streetmachinesoftablerock.com...opic.php?t=124Last edited by techinspector1; 09-09-2005 at 12:40 AM.
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09-09-2005 06:00 AM #3
www.sdpc.com is for San Diego Precast Concrete, Inc. Can I get a manifold from them...???
Try www.sdpc2000.comWes...aka "BigRed"
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09-09-2005 11:35 AM #4
Thanks BigRed, my badPLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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09-09-2005 12:49 PM #5
HMMMM.....precast concrete....I've had intakes that felt like they were made by San Diego Precast Concrete Company.
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09-09-2005 02:06 PM #6
thanks techinspector1 im not offended at all its my fault. thanks for the info!Never Criticise A Man Until You've Walked A Mile In His Shoes. That Way When You Criticise Him You'll Be A Mile Away And You'll Have His Shoes
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09-09-2005 02:07 PM #7
oh, i was also told a 350 block .030 over was a 355 is this true?Never Criticise A Man Until You've Walked A Mile In His Shoes. That Way When You Criticise Him You'll Be A Mile Away And You'll Have His Shoes
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09-09-2005 03:13 PM #8
yepPLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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09-09-2005 05:17 PM #9
ahhh i see. right now i gotta clean and hone the cylinders. will a honer take off surface rust? theres a little bit in one cylinderNever Criticise A Man Until You've Walked A Mile In His Shoes. That Way When You Criticise Him You'll Be A Mile Away And You'll Have His Shoes
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09-10-2005 08:39 PM #10
nevermind on that one i used a honer and it cleaned those cylinders up perfectlyNever Criticise A Man Until You've Walked A Mile In His Shoes. That Way When You Criticise Him You'll Be A Mile Away And You'll Have His Shoes
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09-10-2005 08:49 PM #11
Originally posted by muteboy49
ahhh i see. right now i gotta clean and hone the cylinders. will a honer take off surface rust? theres a little bit in one cylinder
It's not honer, it is a cylinder hone. you have to be careful with them as the drill type 1's don't cut compleatly str8, there mainly for braking cylinder glaze so the rings seat.You don't know what you've got til it's gone
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09-10-2005 08:51 PM #12
oh whatever idk man but i do know it did a damn good job of cleaning the cylindersNever Criticise A Man Until You've Walked A Mile In His Shoes. That Way When You Criticise Him You'll Be A Mile Away And You'll Have His Shoes
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09-10-2005 09:08 PM #13
Originally posted by muteboy49
oh whatever idk man but i do know it did a damn good job of cleaning the cylindersYou don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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09-11-2005 09:47 AM #14
Is your block freshly bored or has it been used?
If it is used you need to take it to an automotive machine shop and have them check the cylinder bores for wear and taper. They can do this with the block sitting in the back of a pickup truck. Your .030 block may need to be opened up to .040 or even .060.
Trust me. If your cylinders are worn your fresh rings will never seal.
From your other posts, it looks like you plan to buy a rebuild kit with pistons. Don't order anything until you know the true condition of your block.
You should also ask the machinest to check your deck surface. It may need to be resurfaced.
Most machine shops will do these simple checks for free. Another prudent check, which will cost a few bucks, is to have the block mag checked in the areas known to crack.
Be careful about the advice you take from people who know everything and never owned anything.An Old California Rodder
Hiding Out In The Ozarks
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09-11-2005 11:51 AM #15
very good advice and i thank you. The block when i got was in good shape the guy i bought it from i can trust, he builds some bad ass SBC's as far as the cylinders i used a cylinder hone on them and they look very good. They are spotless and have the cross hatching marks on them. The deck surface is good. The motor was disassembled not very long before i got it and it ran fine.
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