Thread: 55 Chevy balancer installation

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Originally posted by firebird77clone
when the motor is hot, the crank is also hot, and thus would expand and take up the slack created by the HB expansion. The theory is to pu the balancer on hot, with the crank cold.

Works great for bearings, so why not? Thing about heating bearings for installation.. ya gotta get them on FAST 'cause soon as the shaft pulls the heat out of 'em, they shrink back down.

I agree with heating or cooling metal to get it to do what you want it to do, do it all the time, but putting a 20 lb. HB in a pan of boiling water is not gonna do nothing. if it did by the time you get from the house to the garage it wouldnt do no good. you are talking about a lot of metal. it would take a torch to make a dif.

I'm always amazed when someone shows their ignorance by putting down someone else's advise before ever having tried it. I've done this 100+ times over the years. I was taught this by an old time-long time GM service manager back in the 60's. As for taking 5 minutes to get it to the garage and on the crank, I agree if you are that slow it wouldn't work. 'Course...you probably don't make much doing flatrate work if that's the pace you work at. I take it out of the pan, out the back door and through the carport into the garage. I know I can do this in about 20 seconds, quicker when my wife REALLY wants her towel back.

i say knock the HB on and you come behind me and you say......... "Never...NEVER....hammer a cold harmonic balancer onto a crank. The way most of us old timers do it is to place the balancer in a pan of boiling water for 5-10 minutes."

and that's not putting me down. i do it the way GM says do it. i think you should have put in a few more "nevers". i don't know who the old timers are you are talking about, but, im as old as they get, and have put on or seen a lot more HB put on than most people here has, and been in a repair shop everyday of my life and ive never heard of it being done that away, because heating it that little bit wouldn't make no dif, if you had of said thats was the way you did it, i would have let it go, because i don't care how you do it, but when you tell me im wrong im not gonna let it go. it always amazes how a person can come on here and tell someone else they are wrong and when that person turns it around then he is "ignorance" you are in the house boiling a HB in a pan of water that would have went on just as easy whitout doing that and im "ignorance" ?????? you don't talk about me i want talk about you.

If you mike a hub cold, then after boiling it, you'll se it get a few thousandths bigger, and that's all it takes.Been there, done that. Timing gears on diesel cranks just will not go on without that little bit of expansion. As far as loosening the ring, it's shrunk on in a huge press, not just sitting there.

pope, i know if you heat matel it expands, but do you really believe you take a HB at room temp. put it in a pan of boiling water for 5-10 min. and carry it out to the garage and mike it, it would read few thousandths bigger? it will never happen in our life time.

The fact that this works really bothers you huh? I also freeze flywheels in the freezer...gives me an excuse to eat the icecream to make more room...before I slip the new ring gear on.

i heat the ring gear, with a torch, and if i had of had to walk from one end of the shop to the other it would have cooled off by then to where it wouldnt have went on. i never had a kitchen at the shop, freezers, stoves, are you working on cars or cooking? or working on the car in the kitchen. and no i dont see no prof. that heating a HB in water makes no dif. i've never had the need to do it.

Originally posted by lt1s10
i heat the ring gear, with a torch, and if i had of had to walk from one end of the shop to the other it would have cooled off by then to where it wouldnt have went on. i never had a kitchen at the shop, freezers, stoves, are you working on cars or cooking? or working on the car in the kitchen. and no i dont see no prof. that heating a HB in water makes no dif. i've never had the need to do it.

Originally posted by dljdad
The fact that this works really bothers you huh? I also freeze flywheels in the freezer...gives me an excuse to eat the icecream to make more room...before I slip the new ring gear on.

Are you married?If you are can your wife talk to mine.If you want to eat the ice cream just say you want to eat the ice cream.

In Brasil we put Hb with a HOT AIR GUN, and works well

Originally posted by lt1s10
i heat the ring gear, with a torch, and if i had of had to walk from one end of the shop to the other it would have cooled off by then to where it wouldnt have went on. i never had a kitchen at the shop, freezers, stoves, are you working on cars or cooking? or working on the car in the kitchen. and no i dont see no prof. that heating a HB in water makes no dif. i've never had the need to do it.

Originally posted by chevy250
In Brasil we put Hb with a HOT AIR GUN, and works well

I do know for a fact the hot air gun I have will melt paint.This will also melt the interia ring.

It sounds to me like no one owns a good tap set.Is Sears still in business?I have seen one of these cranks back in the mid 80's that was the last time I ever say one.I think that might have been laying on dads garage floor.Wow I really feel old now.

Quanta prepotencia !

Originally posted by chevy250
Quanta prepotencia !

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